<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0" encoding="UTF-8" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:admin="http://webns.net/mvcb/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom/" xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:fireside="http://fireside.fm/modules/rss/fireside">
  <channel>
    <fireside:hostname>app02</fireside:hostname>
    <fireside:genDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 05:34:14 +0000</fireside:genDate>
    <generator>Fireside (https://fireside.fm)</generator>
    <title>Voices from The Bench - Episodes Tagged with “Dental Laboratory Business”</title>
    <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/tags/dental%20laboratory%20business</link>
    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
    <description>A weekly podcast dedicated to the dental laboratory industry. Featuring anyone associated with the profession from all over the world. Host are in their own dental laboratory every day making teeth and interviewing people from the industry on their time off. New episodes every Monday morning.</description>
    <language>en-us</language>
    <itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type>
    <itunes:subtitle>A Dental Laboratory Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>A weekly podcast dedicated to the dental laboratory industry. Featuring anyone associated with the profession from all over the world. Host are in their own dental laboratory every day making teeth and interviewing people from the industry on their time off. New episodes every Monday morning.</itunes:summary>
    <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/cover.jpg?v=3"/>
    <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
    <itunes:keywords>Dental Laboratory, Dentistry, Removable, Fixed, Crowns, teeth, technicians, CDT, dentures, partials, mills, printers, dentist, zirconia, emax</itunes:keywords>
    <itunes:owner>
      <itunes:name>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:name>
      <itunes:email>info@voicesfromthebench.com</itunes:email>
    </itunes:owner>
<itunes:category text="Health &amp; Fitness">
  <itunes:category text="Medicine"/>
</itunes:category>
<itunes:category text="Science">
  <itunes:category text="Life Sciences"/>
</itunes:category>
<item>
  <title>441: Amir Bagheri &amp; Dan Sinclair: A Touch of Magic Can Solve A Lot of Lab Issues</title>
  <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/441</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="false">1711bf81-2021-4241-be9d-9140d9956ebe</guid>
  <pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/1711bf81-2021-4241-be9d-9140d9956ebe.mp3" length="69150336" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episode>441</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Amir Bagheri &amp; Dan Sinclair: A Touch of Magic Can Solve A Lot of Lab Issues</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Elvis sits down with Dan Sinclair and Amir Bagheri from Magic Touch Software to talk about the history of the company, how it grew from a small development project into a complete laboratory management system, and why they believe labs need more than just production tracking. They dive into automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and the importance of actually understanding how a lab operates before trying to improve it.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:11:57</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/episodes/1/1711bf81-2021-4241-be9d-9140d9956ebe/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>&lt;h3&gt;What if zirconia could look even more like natural teeth?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;According to Dr. Ed McLaren, “Of all the zirconia’s he's tested, the optical properties of &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt;’s e.max zirconia are the closest to natural teeth.” (And I second that with everything I’ve see – if Barb does the read)&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Discover what’s redefining the possibilities with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS e.max Zirconia&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Join Dr. Ed McLaren for Zirconia Reimagined—an informative webinar exploring the latest advancements, clinical insights, and practical applications of zirconia in modern dentistry.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;October 5th @ 7:00 pm.  Register today at Vivalearning.com&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why &lt;a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Knight Dental&lt;/a&gt; recently launched &lt;strong&gt;SimplyARCH Studio&lt;/strong&gt;, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What happens when you combine a family-run software company, decades of dental laboratory experience, and a mission to make labs run smarter? You get &lt;a href="https://www.magictouchsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Magic Touch Software&lt;/a&gt;. In this episode, Elvis sits down with &lt;strong&gt;Dan Sinclair&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Amir Bagheri&lt;/strong&gt; to dig into the history, philosophy, and technology behind Magic Touch and find out why they believe a laboratory management system should do a whole lot more than just track cases through production.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dan shares his unexpected journey back to Magic Touch after leaving the company, while Amir takes us all the way back to the 1990s and the origins of the software, including how his father, Gary, helped develop what would eventually become the foundation of Magic Touch through his work with Glidewell. The conversation dives into the evolution from production-focused LMS platforms to complete business management systems that bring customer management, accounting, inventory, automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and production workflows together in one place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We also get into one of the biggest challenges facing modern dental labs: digital case entry and the ever-growing pile of scanner portals and inboxes. Amir and Dan explain how Magic Touch can automate that process, reduce manual entry, minimize missed cases and errors, and give lab teams more time to actually work on cases instead of hunting them down. And if you've ever wondered how much time and money a lab can lose by having a collection of disconnected systems, this conversation makes a pretty compelling case for consolidation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But perhaps the biggest theme of the episode is that Magic Touch doesn't want to be just another software vendor. Their approach is built around implementation, consultation, process improvement, and helping labs understand what they actually want their business to look like before configuring the system to get them there. From breaking old habits to building super users, testing changes before they go live, and using data to identify where a lab needs to improve, the goal is to create a system that grows and changes with the business.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Hey, listeners—ever wonder what Elvis is doing when he’s not recording Voices from the Bench?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;He’s a client rep for Derby Dental Laboratory, out in the field every day doing chairside visits and building relationships. His job is simple—keep doctors happy and keep them coming back.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;And he couldn’t do it without &lt;a href="https://www.icortica.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;iCortica&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Right from his phone, Elvis can see sales, remake rates, account notes, risks, and cross-sell opportunities—even before he walks through the door. No spreadsheets. No surprises. Just the info he needs to grow accounts.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Stop digging for data and start taking action.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Head to icortica.com and schedule your demo today.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Dental lab owners and managers — are you spending too much time chasing paperwork, checking portals, tracking cases, and answering doctors asking, “Is my crown done yet?”&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;You didn’t start a dental lab to become a full-time paperwork wrangler. &lt;a href="https://labncloud.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LabNCloud&lt;/a&gt; is the all-in-one, cloud-based platform built by techs, for techs, with 90+ features to streamline your entire lab — from case tracking and invoicing to shipping, time tracking, doctor portals, and automatic digital file routing.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Stop managing chaos and start managing your lab. Visit LabNCloud.com to book your free personalized demo. And mention “Elvis is Handsome” to get your first month free.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;LabNCloud — the operating system for dental labs. Built by techs, for techs.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Amir Bagheri and Dan Sinclair.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Magic Touch Software, Magic Touch LMS, laboratory management system, dental laboratory software, dental lab software, dental laboratory management, dental lab management, dental technology, dental industry, dental labs, dental laboratory, lab management, lab workflow, laboratory workflow, digital dentistry, digital dental lab, dental CAD CAM, dental automation, lab automation, workflow automation, production management, production tracking, case management, case entry, digital case entry, digital workflows, scanner integration, intraoral scanners, scanner workflow, digital impressions, digital cases, case files, case processing, case routing, case tracking, case status, customer management, customer relationship management, CRM, dental CRM, accounting integration, inventory management, inventory tracking, logistics, dental lab logistics, shipping logistics, email automation, outreach, communication, reporting, lab reports, dental lab reporting, data analytics, lab analytics, business analytics, production analytics, remake tracking, remake rates, remake management, lab remakes, accountability, workflow optimization, process improvement, lab efficiency, operational efficiency, lab productivity, production efficiency, business management, laboratory operations, lab operations, dental business management, process management, workflow management, systems integration, software integration, API integration, software API, dental software integrations, software implementation, LMS implementation, LMS transition, LMS migration, lab software migration, software onboarding, lab onboarding, implementation, software training, lab training, customer success, customer support, software support, software consultation, technology consulting, lab consulting, dental lab consulting, digital transformation, laboratory technology, dental technology solutions, dental software solutions, cloud software, enterprise software, enterprise LMS, Magic Touch Lite, Magic Touch Signature, Lab Annex, laboratory information system, LIS, dental LIS, dental production software, dental business software, dental lab technology, lab technology, dental workflow, digital workflow, analog workflow, production workflow, business workflow, end to end workflow, end to end lab management, centralized software, integrated software, all in one software, all in one LMS, software consolidation, system consolidation, digital transformation, automation technology, workflow technology, lab technology trends, dental technology trends, dental laboratory trends, dental industry technology, modern dental laboratory, modern dental lab, future of dental labs, future of dental technology, dental innovation, laboratory innovation, software innovation, dental software, dental LMS, LMS software, lab information management, information management, production systems, business systems, CRM systems, accounting systems, inventory systems, logistics systems, integrated systems, connected systems, data integration, data management, laboratory data, dental lab data, business intelligence, reporting tools, custom reporting, customizable software, configurable software, software customization, lab customization, scalable software, scalable LMS, growing dental lab, small dental lab, large dental lab, enterprise dental lab, dental lab startup, laboratory startup, lab growth, lab scalability, software scalability, production accountability, customer accountability, operational accountability, super users, software super user, implementation strategy, change management, process mapping, workflow analysis, lab process, lab processes, process improvement, bad habits, workflow problems, production problems, lab bottlenecks, production bottlenecks, case bottlenecks, missed cases, case errors, manual entry, manual processes, manual data entry, inbox management, inbox sprawl, email management, file management, digital file management, case downloads, automated downloads, case automation, case routing, automated case routing, automated workflows, production automation, business automation, lab automation software, dental lab automation software, customer service, customer experience, doctor relationships, dental practices, dentists, dental offices, dental technicians, dental technicians software, dental lab technicians, dental laboratory technicians, dental lab owners, laboratory owners, lab managers, production managers, dental lab management, laboratory management, lab leadership, technology leadership, software development, software engineering, app development, proprietary software, software architecture, system architecture, software development history, dental software development, healthcare technology, healthcare software, healthcare IT, software platforms, technology platforms, digital platforms, laboratory platforms, dental platforms, Glidewell, Glidewell Laboratories, GCM, Glidewell Customer Manager, CRM integration, LMS integration, accounting integration, inventory integration, logistics integration, scanner integration, digital dentistry workflows, dental CAD, dental CAM, CAD CAM workflow, CAD CAM software, dental design workflow, dental production workflow, dental manufacturing, dental manufacturing software, dental milling, dental 3D printing, dental digital workflow, dental digitalization, dental lab digitalization, dental laboratory digitalization, dental lab systems, dental laboratory systems, lab software systems, dental software systems, software for dental labs, best dental lab software, dental lab management software, laboratory management software, dental production management, dental case management, dental customer management, dental inventory management, dental accounting, dental logistics, dental reporting, dental analytics, dental automation, dental workflow automation, dental case automation, dental lab integrations, dental lab software integration, digital lab management, digital laboratory management, dental lab efficiency, dental lab productivity, dental lab operations, dental lab processes, dental lab workflows, dental lab business, dental lab technology, dental laboratory business, dental laboratory operations, dental laboratory workflow, dental laboratory automation, dental laboratory software, dental laboratory management software, dental laboratory technology, Voices From the Bench, Voices From the Bench podcast, dental podcast, dental technology podcast, dental lab podcast, dental laboratory podcast, Elvis, Dan Sinclair, Amir Bagheri, Magic Touch interview, Magic Touch podcast, dental software podcast, dental technology interview, dental lab interview, dental industry podcast, dental business podcast, dental innovation podcast, dental workflow podcast, dental management podcast, dental tech, dental tech podcast, dental tech industry, dental tech software, lab management technology, laboratory management technology, digital lab workflow, integrated lab management, smarter lab management, efficient dental lab, modern lab management, laboratory software solutions, dental laboratory software solutions, lab management solutions, dental lab solutions, technology for dental labs, software for dental laboratories, technology for dental laboratories, digital laboratory solutions, automated laboratory workflow, connected dental laboratory, data driven dental lab, data driven laboratory, process driven lab, efficient laboratory, scalable laboratory, laboratory growth, lab modernization, dental lab modernization, digital lab transformation, laboratory transformation, workflow transformation, software transformation, dental software implementation, LMS implementation, dental lab transition, laboratory software transition, dental lab migration, Magic Touch transition, Summer Dental, Somer Dental, dental lab software transition, dental lab software implementation, laboratory software implementation, laboratory software migration</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h3>What if zirconia could look even more like natural teeth?</h3>

<h3>According to Dr. Ed McLaren, “Of all the zirconia’s he's tested, the optical properties of <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>’s e.max zirconia are the closest to natural teeth.” (And I second that with everything I’ve see – if Barb does the read)</h3>

<h3>Discover what’s redefining the possibilities with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS e.max Zirconia</a>.</h3>

<h3>Join Dr. Ed McLaren for Zirconia Reimagined—an informative webinar exploring the latest advancements, clinical insights, and practical applications of zirconia in modern dentistry.</h3>

<h3>October 5th @ 7:00 pm.  Register today at Vivalearning.com</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.</h3>

<p>What happens when you combine a family-run software company, decades of dental laboratory experience, and a mission to make labs run smarter? You get <a href="https://www.magictouchsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Magic Touch Software</a>. In this episode, Elvis sits down with <strong>Dan Sinclair</strong> and <strong>Amir Bagheri</strong> to dig into the history, philosophy, and technology behind Magic Touch and find out why they believe a laboratory management system should do a whole lot more than just track cases through production.</p>

<p>Dan shares his unexpected journey back to Magic Touch after leaving the company, while Amir takes us all the way back to the 1990s and the origins of the software, including how his father, Gary, helped develop what would eventually become the foundation of Magic Touch through his work with Glidewell. The conversation dives into the evolution from production-focused LMS platforms to complete business management systems that bring customer management, accounting, inventory, automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and production workflows together in one place.</p>

<p>We also get into one of the biggest challenges facing modern dental labs: digital case entry and the ever-growing pile of scanner portals and inboxes. Amir and Dan explain how Magic Touch can automate that process, reduce manual entry, minimize missed cases and errors, and give lab teams more time to actually work on cases instead of hunting them down. And if you've ever wondered how much time and money a lab can lose by having a collection of disconnected systems, this conversation makes a pretty compelling case for consolidation.</p>

<p>But perhaps the biggest theme of the episode is that Magic Touch doesn't want to be just another software vendor. Their approach is built around implementation, consultation, process improvement, and helping labs understand what they actually want their business to look like before configuring the system to get them there. From breaking old habits to building super users, testing changes before they go live, and using data to identify where a lab needs to improve, the goal is to create a system that grows and changes with the business.</p>

<h3>Hey, listeners—ever wonder what Elvis is doing when he’s not recording Voices from the Bench?</h3>

<h3>He’s a client rep for Derby Dental Laboratory, out in the field every day doing chairside visits and building relationships. His job is simple—keep doctors happy and keep them coming back.</h3>

<h3>And he couldn’t do it without <a href="https://www.icortica.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">iCortica</a>.</h3>

<h3>Right from his phone, Elvis can see sales, remake rates, account notes, risks, and cross-sell opportunities—even before he walks through the door. No spreadsheets. No surprises. Just the info he needs to grow accounts.</h3>

<h3>Stop digging for data and start taking action.</h3>

<h3>Head to icortica.com and schedule your demo today.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>Dental lab owners and managers — are you spending too much time chasing paperwork, checking portals, tracking cases, and answering doctors asking, “Is my crown done yet?”</h3>

<h3>You didn’t start a dental lab to become a full-time paperwork wrangler. <a href="https://labncloud.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">LabNCloud</a> is the all-in-one, cloud-based platform built by techs, for techs, with 90+ features to streamline your entire lab — from case tracking and invoicing to shipping, time tracking, doctor portals, and automatic digital file routing.</h3>

<h3>Stop managing chaos and start managing your lab. Visit LabNCloud.com to book your free personalized demo. And mention “Elvis is Handsome” to get your first month free.</h3>

<h3>LabNCloud — the operating system for dental labs. Built by techs, for techs.</h3><p>Special Guests: Amir Bagheri and Dan Sinclair.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>What if zirconia could look even more like natural teeth?</h3>

<h3>According to Dr. Ed McLaren, “Of all the zirconia’s he's tested, the optical properties of <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>’s e.max zirconia are the closest to natural teeth.” (And I second that with everything I’ve see – if Barb does the read)</h3>

<h3>Discover what’s redefining the possibilities with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS e.max Zirconia</a>.</h3>

<h3>Join Dr. Ed McLaren for Zirconia Reimagined—an informative webinar exploring the latest advancements, clinical insights, and practical applications of zirconia in modern dentistry.</h3>

<h3>October 5th @ 7:00 pm.  Register today at Vivalearning.com</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.</h3>

<p>What happens when you combine a family-run software company, decades of dental laboratory experience, and a mission to make labs run smarter? You get <a href="https://www.magictouchsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Magic Touch Software</a>. In this episode, Elvis sits down with <strong>Dan Sinclair</strong> and <strong>Amir Bagheri</strong> to dig into the history, philosophy, and technology behind Magic Touch and find out why they believe a laboratory management system should do a whole lot more than just track cases through production.</p>

<p>Dan shares his unexpected journey back to Magic Touch after leaving the company, while Amir takes us all the way back to the 1990s and the origins of the software, including how his father, Gary, helped develop what would eventually become the foundation of Magic Touch through his work with Glidewell. The conversation dives into the evolution from production-focused LMS platforms to complete business management systems that bring customer management, accounting, inventory, automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and production workflows together in one place.</p>

<p>We also get into one of the biggest challenges facing modern dental labs: digital case entry and the ever-growing pile of scanner portals and inboxes. Amir and Dan explain how Magic Touch can automate that process, reduce manual entry, minimize missed cases and errors, and give lab teams more time to actually work on cases instead of hunting them down. And if you've ever wondered how much time and money a lab can lose by having a collection of disconnected systems, this conversation makes a pretty compelling case for consolidation.</p>

<p>But perhaps the biggest theme of the episode is that Magic Touch doesn't want to be just another software vendor. Their approach is built around implementation, consultation, process improvement, and helping labs understand what they actually want their business to look like before configuring the system to get them there. From breaking old habits to building super users, testing changes before they go live, and using data to identify where a lab needs to improve, the goal is to create a system that grows and changes with the business.</p>

<h3>Hey, listeners—ever wonder what Elvis is doing when he’s not recording Voices from the Bench?</h3>

<h3>He’s a client rep for Derby Dental Laboratory, out in the field every day doing chairside visits and building relationships. His job is simple—keep doctors happy and keep them coming back.</h3>

<h3>And he couldn’t do it without <a href="https://www.icortica.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">iCortica</a>.</h3>

<h3>Right from his phone, Elvis can see sales, remake rates, account notes, risks, and cross-sell opportunities—even before he walks through the door. No spreadsheets. No surprises. Just the info he needs to grow accounts.</h3>

<h3>Stop digging for data and start taking action.</h3>

<h3>Head to icortica.com and schedule your demo today.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>Dental lab owners and managers — are you spending too much time chasing paperwork, checking portals, tracking cases, and answering doctors asking, “Is my crown done yet?”</h3>

<h3>You didn’t start a dental lab to become a full-time paperwork wrangler. <a href="https://labncloud.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">LabNCloud</a> is the all-in-one, cloud-based platform built by techs, for techs, with 90+ features to streamline your entire lab — from case tracking and invoicing to shipping, time tracking, doctor portals, and automatic digital file routing.</h3>

<h3>Stop managing chaos and start managing your lab. Visit LabNCloud.com to book your free personalized demo. And mention “Elvis is Handsome” to get your first month free.</h3>

<h3>LabNCloud — the operating system for dental labs. Built by techs, for techs.</h3><p>Special Guests: Amir Bagheri and Dan Sinclair.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
</item>
<item>
  <title>439: Caroline Kirkpatrick: From Ear Molds to Digital Dentures</title>
  <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/439</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="false">083d8b8d-361c-4567-9d4d-a7935c2b232f</guid>
  <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/083d8b8d-361c-4567-9d4d-a7935c2b232f.mp3" length="58186368" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episode>439</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Caroline Kirkpatrick: From Ear Molds to Digital Dentures</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Caroline Kirkpatrick shares her incredible journey from discovering dental technology by chance in Scotland to becoming the first female clinical dental technician to qualify in the UK. She talks about building her own lab, teaching, treating patients, and embracing digital dentistry while constantly looking for better, more efficient ways to work. It’s a great conversation about curiosity, education, digital dentures, and the importance of sharing what you’ve learned along the way.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:00:32</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/episodes/0/083d8b8d-361c-4567-9d4d-a7935c2b232f/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt;. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS Emax Zirconia&lt;/a&gt; offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why &lt;a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Knight Dental&lt;/a&gt; recently launched &lt;strong&gt;SimplyARCH Studio&lt;/strong&gt;, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,&lt;a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Invisible Profession&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From polishing hearing-aid earpieces to becoming the first female clinical dental technician to qualify in the UK, &lt;strong&gt;Caroline Kirkpatrick&lt;/strong&gt; has taken a pretty incredible—and definitely unconventional—path through dental technology.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Caroline joins Barb and Elvis to talk about how a broken denture repair sign outside a dental laboratory sparked her interest in the industry, her early years learning crown and bridge, orthodontics, and working in a dental hospital, and how her curiosity pushed her to learn every side of the profession. Eventually, that curiosity led Caroline to become one of the first four technicians accepted into the UK’s pioneering clinical dental technology program in 2010.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But Caroline’s story doesn’t stop at the bench. She built her own laboratory, taught dental technology, treated patients clinically, raised a family, and continued pushing herself into digital dentistry. She shares how she experimented with early digital workflows, 3D printing, digital dentures, and eventually exocad—and why she believes the best digital workflow isn’t necessarily the fanciest one, but the one that actually works in the real world.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Caroline also talks about working with her sister and daughter in the family lab, the importance of exposing young technicians to different laboratories and workflows, and why sharing the mistakes you’ve made can sometimes be one of the best ways to help someone else learn. From Scotland to the world of digital dentures, this is a great conversation about curiosity, adaptability, education, and never being afraid to learn something new.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;You know what's expensive in a dental lab? Most people would say the mill, but the real cost is downtime. When production stops, everything backs up—cases get delayed, technicians get frustrated, and customers start asking questions. That's why reliable equipment matters. &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&amp;amp;pf=1&amp;amp;ai=DChsSEwjUx66N8baWAxXdF60GHUadFscYACICCAEQCRoCcHY&amp;amp;co=1&amp;amp;ase=2&amp;amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZoiWOW9IAFlLuJ1vjbWaxuvdKDX7UsDPr2GJs0oZsLFsynjUMihsQYRoCDEoQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;cid=CAASWuRoO2rA8eu0MrwctbCulg69_raiED8KK_QJ1u9yGOsL3XgMleUitRWtBtenkWtDny9HZi9VfojCPqqN1C6aL6kqCwmbdQ4lQ_yPQKTGhYdMGoXlqqT-olYVcw&amp;amp;cce=2&amp;amp;category=acrcp_v1_32&amp;amp;sig=AOD64_2bpaJMyFxSUzLIrIqjXBLzof5ubA&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;nis=4&amp;amp;adurl=https://www.rolanddga.com/products/dental/dwx-series?creative%3D788896668668%26keyword%3Droland%2520milling%2520machines%26matchtype%3Dp%26network%3Dg%26device%3Dc%26gad_source%3D1%26gad_campaignid%3D23369528133%26gbraid%3D0AAAAAD6mPuzL-OH53QwwEY0FHcQ2sFesN%26gclid%3DCjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZoiWOW9IAFlLuJ1vjbWaxuvdKDX7UsDPr2GJs0oZsLFsynjUMihsQYRoCDEoQAvD_BwE&amp;amp;ved=2ahUKEwizs6iN8baWAxVYxuYEHcPdKTkQ0Qx6BAgPEAQ" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Roland DGA's DGSHAPE DWX&lt;/a&gt; milling solutions are built for dependable production, helping labs stay on schedule and keep work moving day after day. Less downtime means fewer surprises and more time doing what your lab does best. And when your equipment is reliable, your customers notice the difference. Reliability isn't just a feature—it's the foundation of a successful lab. Visit rolanddental.com to learn more about Roland's DGSHAPE DWX milling solutions. Special Guest: Caroline Kirkpatrick.&lt;/h3&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>dental technology, dental technician, dental laboratory, dental lab, clinical dental technician, clinical dentistry, dental prosthetics, dental prosthesis, dental technician Scotland, Scotland dental technician, Scottish dental technician, Glasgow, Edinburgh, UK dental technology, dental laboratory technology, dental education, dental training, dental apprenticeships, dental school, dental college, dental career, dental career journey, dental technician career, dental technology career, crown and bridge, crown and bridge technician, crown and bridge lab, crowns, bridges, ceramics, metal ceramic crowns, dental ceramics, dental models, model work, dental waxing, dental casting, dental laboratory casting, dental polishing, orthodontics, orthodontic laboratory, orthodontic appliances, orthodontic technician, retainers, dental retainers, clear retainers, aligners, orthodontic lab, removable appliances, dentures, denture technician, denture laboratory, denture fabrication, denture making, digital dentures, digital denture workflow, digital denture design, denture design, denture technology, denture bases, denture teeth, denture processing, digital dental technology, digital workflow, digital dentistry, digital dental workflow, digital dental lab, digital dental technology, CAD dentistry, dental CAD, CAD CAM dentistry, CAD CAM, dental CAD CAM, exocad, exocad DentalCAD, exocad dentures, exocad digital dentures, exocad workflow, exocad digital workflow, 3Shape, 3Shape Dental System, 3Shape dentures, Blender, dental design software, dental design, digital design, dental milling, milling, dental milling machines, dental manufacturing, digital manufacturing, additive manufacturing, 3D printing, dental 3D printing, 3D printed dental models, dental printers, 3D printers, resin printing, dental resins, printed denture bases, digital orthodontics, digital orthodontic workflow, digital models, digital appliances, dental scanning, intraoral scanning, digital impressions, dental technology innovation, dental innovation, dental technology education, dental education, dental teaching, dental technician education, dental training, dental mentorship, dental mentoring, teaching dental technology, dental students, dental technology students, student technicians, technician training, dental laboratory training, dental apprenticeship, dental laboratory apprenticeship, clinical dental technology, clinical dental technician UK, clinical dental technician Scotland, first female clinical dental technician, female dental technician, women in dental technology, women in dentistry, dental technology leadership, dental laboratory owner, dental lab owner, family dental laboratory, family lab, dental lab business, dental laboratory business, dental entrepreneurship, dental business, small dental lab, small dental laboratory, independent dental lab, independent dental technician, dental practice, dental clinic, dental laboratory and clinic, patient care, direct patient care, patient communication, dental patients, denture patients, clinical workflow, dental clinical workflow, implant prosthetics, implant dentistry, implant prosthesis, implant supported dentures, full arch, full arch dentistry, full arch bridge, immediate load, immediate loading, implant planning, diagnostic dentistry, dental diagnostics, restorative dentistry, removable prosthodontics, prosthodontics, prosthetic dentistry, oral health, oral healthcare, dental aesthetics, dental esthetics, smile design, natural aesthetics, denture aesthetics, aesthetic dentures, customized dentures, patient-centered dentistry, patient satisfaction, patient confidence, dental confidence, restoring smiles, restoring function, digital prosthodontics, digital removable prosthodontics, dental technology innovation, dental workflow, laboratory workflow, efficient workflow, reproducible workflow, workflow optimization, dental production, dental lab production, dental lab efficiency, dental lab productivity, digital transformation, digital transition, analog dentistry, analog dentures, digital versus analog, analog to digital, digital dental workflow, digital denture workflow, digital denture production, digital denture manufacturing, denture workflow, denture production, denture manufacturing, denture processing, digital denture processing, digital denture teeth, digital denture bases, digital denture materials, digital denture systems, digital denture solutions, dental materials, denture materials, dental acrylic, acrylic dentures, dental polymers, dental resin, denture resin, monoblock dentures, printed dentures, digital denture printing, denture printing, denture design software, dental software, dental technology software, dental CAD software, exocad Insights, Insights, exocad presentation, dental technology presentation, dental speaker, dental educator, dental technology speaker, dental conference, dental technology conference, digital dentistry conference, dental technology events, dental industry, dental laboratory industry, dental industry education, dental technology community, dental technician community, dental lab community, knowledge sharing, sharing knowledge, mentorship, lifelong learning, continuing education, continuing dental education, learning dental technology, dental innovation, technology adoption, digital adoption, dental technology adoption, digital workflow education, digital denture education, digital dentistry education, dental technology roadshow, digital denture roadshow, dental technology Scotland, digital dentistry Scotland, dental technology UK, digital dentistry UK, Scottish dental laboratory, Edinburgh dental lab, Glasgow dental lab, dental technician life, life as a dental technician, dental laboratory life, dental lab life, technician journey, career development, career progression, professional development, learning new technology, adapting to technology, embracing digital dentistry, technology and dentistry, future of dental technology, future of dental labs, future of digital dentistry, dental technology future, digital dental future, dental innovation future, dental laboratory innovation, dental workflow innovation, practical digital dentistry, real world dentistry, real world dental workflow, practical dental technology, practical digital workflow, realistic digital dentistry, affordable dental technology, affordable 3D printing, cost effective dentistry, cost effective dental lab, small lab technology, technology for small labs, digital technology for dental labs, accessible digital dentistry, dental technology solutions, dental lab solutions, alternative dental workflows, dental workflow solutions, dental equipment, dental laboratory equipment, dental materials and equipment, digital equipment, dental technology tools, digital tools, dental design tools, digital denture tools, digital denture solutions, digital denture production, digital dentures Scotland, digital dentures UK, digital dentures Europe, denture innovation, denture technology innovation, modern dentures, modern dental laboratory, modern dental technology, modern dental workflows, dental technician stories, dental technician podcast, dental laboratory podcast, dental technology podcast, Voices From the Bench, Voices From the Bench podcast, dental podcast, dental industry podcast, dental technician podcast interview, dental technology interview, Caroline Kirkpatrick, Caroline Kirkpatrick dental technician, Caroline Kirkpatrick clinical dental technician, dental technology stories, dental career stories, inspirational dental technician, inspirational dental technology, dental industry inspiration, dental technician inspiration, women in dental technology, family business, family dental business, sister in dental lab, daughter dental technician, passing on knowledge, next generation dental technicians, next generation dental technology, dental technician mentorship, technician experience, dental laboratory experience, decades in dental technology, 30 years dental technology, experience in dentistry, passion for dentistry, passion for dental technology, curiosity, innovation, education, mentorship, adaptability, perseverance, craftsmanship, dental craftsmanship, technical skills, clinical skills, laboratory skills, dental artistry, dental technician artistry, precision dentistry, precision dental technology, patient-focused dentistry, patient-focused dental laboratory, better dental workflows, smarter dental workflows, making dentistry easier, improving dental workflows, learning from mistakes, dental mistakes, lessons learned, dental technician lessons, sharing experience, sharing mistakes, continuous improvement, dental technology journey, from analog to digital, bench to clinic, bench technician, clinical technician, laboratory to clinic, dental technician to clinician, clinical dental laboratory, dental prosthetic technology, removable prosthetics, fixed prosthetics, orthodontic technology, dental technology career path, unconventional dental career, dental career inspiration, dental industry careers, dental technician education UK, dental technology education UK, dental technician Scotland, clinical dental technology Scotland, digital denture technician, digital denture technician UK, digital dental technician, dental CAD technician, exocad technician, exocad dental technician, dental technology expert, digital denture expert, dental denture workflow expert, dental lab educator, dental technology educator, dental technology mentor, dental technology speaker, dental technology innovation expert, practical dental lab advice, digital denture tips, dental lab tips, dental technician tips, dental technology tips, digital dentistry tips, denture workflow tips, dental CAD tips, exocad tips, digital denture design tips, dental laboratory workflow tips, dental technology best practices, dental lab best practices, dental technician best practices, dental technology knowledge, dental lab knowledge, dental technology experience, dental laboratory experience, dental technician experience, digital denture experience, clinical experience, patient experience, dental laboratory craftsmanship, dental technology craftsmanship, digital craftsmanship, dental artistry, digital artistry, dental prosthetics, prosthetic technology, dental innovation, digital innovation, dental laboratory innovation, dental technology evolution, evolution of dentistry, evolution of dental technology, evolution of dental labs, changing dental technology, changing dental laboratories, modern dental technician, modern dental technician skills, future dental technician, future dental laboratory, digital dental technician, clinical dental technician, Scotland, Glasgow, Edinburgh, United Kingdom, dental technology UK, digital dentures, exocad, dental CAD, 3D printing, dental laboratory, dental technician, prosthodontics, dentures, orthodontics, digital dentistry, Voices From the Bench</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</h3>

<p>From polishing hearing-aid earpieces to becoming the first female clinical dental technician to qualify in the UK, <strong>Caroline Kirkpatrick</strong> has taken a pretty incredible—and definitely unconventional—path through dental technology.</p>

<p>Caroline joins Barb and Elvis to talk about how a broken denture repair sign outside a dental laboratory sparked her interest in the industry, her early years learning crown and bridge, orthodontics, and working in a dental hospital, and how her curiosity pushed her to learn every side of the profession. Eventually, that curiosity led Caroline to become one of the first four technicians accepted into the UK’s pioneering clinical dental technology program in 2010.</p>

<p>But Caroline’s story doesn’t stop at the bench. She built her own laboratory, taught dental technology, treated patients clinically, raised a family, and continued pushing herself into digital dentistry. She shares how she experimented with early digital workflows, 3D printing, digital dentures, and eventually exocad—and why she believes the best digital workflow isn’t necessarily the fanciest one, but the one that actually works in the real world.</p>

<p>Caroline also talks about working with her sister and daughter in the family lab, the importance of exposing young technicians to different laboratories and workflows, and why sharing the mistakes you’ve made can sometimes be one of the best ways to help someone else learn. From Scotland to the world of digital dentures, this is a great conversation about curiosity, adaptability, education, and never being afraid to learn something new.</p>

<h3>You know what's expensive in a dental lab? Most people would say the mill, but the real cost is downtime. When production stops, everything backs up—cases get delayed, technicians get frustrated, and customers start asking questions. That's why reliable equipment matters. <a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&amp;pf=1&amp;ai=DChsSEwjUx66N8baWAxXdF60GHUadFscYACICCAEQCRoCcHY&amp;co=1&amp;ase=2&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZoiWOW9IAFlLuJ1vjbWaxuvdKDX7UsDPr2GJs0oZsLFsynjUMihsQYRoCDEoQAvD_BwE&amp;cid=CAASWuRoO2rA8eu0MrwctbCulg69_raiED8KK_QJ1u9yGOsL3XgMleUitRWtBtenkWtDny9HZi9VfojCPqqN1C6aL6kqCwmbdQ4lQ_yPQKTGhYdMGoXlqqT-olYVcw&amp;cce=2&amp;category=acrcp_v1_32&amp;sig=AOD64_2bpaJMyFxSUzLIrIqjXBLzof5ubA&amp;q&amp;nis=4&amp;adurl=https://www.rolanddga.com/products/dental/dwx-series?creative%3D788896668668%26keyword%3Droland%2520milling%2520machines%26matchtype%3Dp%26network%3Dg%26device%3Dc%26gad_source%3D1%26gad_campaignid%3D23369528133%26gbraid%3D0AAAAAD6mPuzL-OH53QwwEY0FHcQ2sFesN%26gclid%3DCjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZoiWOW9IAFlLuJ1vjbWaxuvdKDX7UsDPr2GJs0oZsLFsynjUMihsQYRoCDEoQAvD_BwE&amp;ved=2ahUKEwizs6iN8baWAxVYxuYEHcPdKTkQ0Qx6BAgPEAQ" rel="nofollow noopener">Roland DGA's DGSHAPE DWX</a> milling solutions are built for dependable production, helping labs stay on schedule and keep work moving day after day. Less downtime means fewer surprises and more time doing what your lab does best. And when your equipment is reliable, your customers notice the difference. Reliability isn't just a feature—it's the foundation of a successful lab. Visit rolanddental.com to learn more about Roland's DGSHAPE DWX milling solutions.</h3><p>Special Guest: Caroline Kirkpatrick.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</h3>

<p>From polishing hearing-aid earpieces to becoming the first female clinical dental technician to qualify in the UK, <strong>Caroline Kirkpatrick</strong> has taken a pretty incredible—and definitely unconventional—path through dental technology.</p>

<p>Caroline joins Barb and Elvis to talk about how a broken denture repair sign outside a dental laboratory sparked her interest in the industry, her early years learning crown and bridge, orthodontics, and working in a dental hospital, and how her curiosity pushed her to learn every side of the profession. Eventually, that curiosity led Caroline to become one of the first four technicians accepted into the UK’s pioneering clinical dental technology program in 2010.</p>

<p>But Caroline’s story doesn’t stop at the bench. She built her own laboratory, taught dental technology, treated patients clinically, raised a family, and continued pushing herself into digital dentistry. She shares how she experimented with early digital workflows, 3D printing, digital dentures, and eventually exocad—and why she believes the best digital workflow isn’t necessarily the fanciest one, but the one that actually works in the real world.</p>

<p>Caroline also talks about working with her sister and daughter in the family lab, the importance of exposing young technicians to different laboratories and workflows, and why sharing the mistakes you’ve made can sometimes be one of the best ways to help someone else learn. From Scotland to the world of digital dentures, this is a great conversation about curiosity, adaptability, education, and never being afraid to learn something new.</p>

<h3>You know what's expensive in a dental lab? Most people would say the mill, but the real cost is downtime. When production stops, everything backs up—cases get delayed, technicians get frustrated, and customers start asking questions. That's why reliable equipment matters. <a href="https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&amp;pf=1&amp;ai=DChsSEwjUx66N8baWAxXdF60GHUadFscYACICCAEQCRoCcHY&amp;co=1&amp;ase=2&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZoiWOW9IAFlLuJ1vjbWaxuvdKDX7UsDPr2GJs0oZsLFsynjUMihsQYRoCDEoQAvD_BwE&amp;cid=CAASWuRoO2rA8eu0MrwctbCulg69_raiED8KK_QJ1u9yGOsL3XgMleUitRWtBtenkWtDny9HZi9VfojCPqqN1C6aL6kqCwmbdQ4lQ_yPQKTGhYdMGoXlqqT-olYVcw&amp;cce=2&amp;category=acrcp_v1_32&amp;sig=AOD64_2bpaJMyFxSUzLIrIqjXBLzof5ubA&amp;q&amp;nis=4&amp;adurl=https://www.rolanddga.com/products/dental/dwx-series?creative%3D788896668668%26keyword%3Droland%2520milling%2520machines%26matchtype%3Dp%26network%3Dg%26device%3Dc%26gad_source%3D1%26gad_campaignid%3D23369528133%26gbraid%3D0AAAAAD6mPuzL-OH53QwwEY0FHcQ2sFesN%26gclid%3DCjwKCAjwtKrUBhAhEiwAr77ZoiWOW9IAFlLuJ1vjbWaxuvdKDX7UsDPr2GJs0oZsLFsynjUMihsQYRoCDEoQAvD_BwE&amp;ved=2ahUKEwizs6iN8baWAxVYxuYEHcPdKTkQ0Qx6BAgPEAQ" rel="nofollow noopener">Roland DGA's DGSHAPE DWX</a> milling solutions are built for dependable production, helping labs stay on schedule and keep work moving day after day. Less downtime means fewer surprises and more time doing what your lab does best. And when your equipment is reliable, your customers notice the difference. Reliability isn't just a feature—it's the foundation of a successful lab. Visit rolanddental.com to learn more about Roland's DGSHAPE DWX milling solutions.</h3><p>Special Guest: Caroline Kirkpatrick.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
</item>
<item>
  <title>438: Shawn Nowak &amp; Jude Grayson: What Does a Karate Guy Know About Dental Labs?</title>
  <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/438</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="false">7b2df20e-e764-4653-b0f5-c141d8ce8e4b</guid>
  <pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/7b2df20e-e764-4653-b0f5-c141d8ce8e4b.mp3" length="61831680" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episode>438</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Shawn Nowak &amp; Jude Grayson: What Does a Karate Guy Know About Dental Labs?</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Shawn Nowak from Nowak Dental Supplies joins Elvis and Barb to talk about NOLA LabFest and the unexpected connection between martial arts and the dental laboratory industry with speaker Jude Grayson. They discuss leadership, business, knowing when to pivot, and how lessons from competition and martial arts can help lab owners navigate a rapidly changing industry. Plus, Shawn gives a preview of what’s coming to NOLA LabFest, including education, networking, and plenty of New Orleans fun.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:04:20</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/episodes/7/7b2df20e-e764-4653-b0f5-c141d8ce8e4b/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Hello, Voices of the Bench community. This is Casey Baldwin with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt;. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS emax Zirconia&lt;/a&gt;, offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help you save valuable production time while maintaining consistent outcomes. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out today and discover how I&lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;PS emax Zirconia&lt;/a&gt; can help streamline your workflow.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why &lt;a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Knight Dental&lt;/a&gt; recently launched &lt;strong&gt;SimplyARCH Studio&lt;/strong&gt;, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Join us at the Race For the Future 12 to raise money for the &lt;a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Foundation For Dental Laborary Technology&lt;/a&gt;. September 27th in Valley View, Texas!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Shawn Nowak&lt;/strong&gt; from Nowak Dental Supplies joins Elvis and Barb to talk all things &lt;a href="https://www.nolalabfest.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;NOLA LabFest&lt;/a&gt; October 15-17th, including the welcome addition to the speaker lineup: martial arts instructor and business coach &lt;strong&gt;Jude Grayson&lt;/strong&gt;. After Jude’s keynote at last year’s LabFest, the response was strong enough to bring him back for another keynote and a breakout session. The conversation starts with the obvious question: what the heck does a karate instructor know about the dental laboratory industry?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As Jude explains, quite a bit. Having practiced martial arts since he was five years old and built a career around teaching, competition, entrepreneurship, and business coaching, Jude draws a surprising number of parallels between martial arts and business. He talks about discipline, competition, confidence, risk, and his “five-year-old board break moment”—the idea that sometimes the ability to succeed is already inside us, and the right coach simply helps unlock it. He also explains how those lessons translate into working with business owners and helping them recognize opportunities they may not see themselves.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The conversation then turns toward one of the biggest challenges facing dental laboratories today: knowing when it’s time to pivot. With technology, AI, 3D printing, changing doctor workflows, and the evolving DSO landscape continuing to reshape the industry, Jude’s NOLA LabFest keynote will focus on how business owners can recognize when change is necessary, decide when to act, and understand the risks that come with being an early adopter. He also shares some great perspective on failure, competition, and why making a bad business decision doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve lost—the real loss comes when you stop competing altogether.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Shawn also gives us a look at what else is happening at NOLA LabFest, including education on AI, social media marketing, employee culture, DSOs, and other topics affecting dental laboratories right now. And, of course, there’s plenty of the NOLA LabFest fun mixed in, from the masquerade party and distillery tour to the return of Family Feud. It’s a conversation about business, leadership, taking risks, and finding ways to keep dental laboratories moving forward—and it all starts with a karate instructor walking into a dental show. Special Guests: Jude Grayson and Shawn Nowak.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>dental laboratory, dental lab, dental technician, dental technicians, dental technology, dental industry, dental laboratory industry, dental lab industry, dental lab owner, dental lab owners, dental lab operator, dental lab operators, dental laboratory business, dental business, dental lab leadership, dental lab management, dental lab growth, dental lab success, dental lab education, dental lab training, dental lab community, dental laboratory education, dental laboratory business, laboratory management, laboratory leadership, laboratory growth, laboratory success, dental industry trends, dental industry education, dental industry leadership, NOLA LabFest, NOLA Lab Fest, NOLA, New Orleans, New Orleans dental, dental conference, dental event, dental meeting, dental trade show, dental education, continuing education, dental CE, dental CE courses, dental seminars, dental speakers, dental keynote, keynote speaker, breakout session, Shawn Nowak, Nowak Dental Supplies, Nowak Dental, Jude Grayson, martial arts, karate, karate instructor, martial arts instructor, karate teacher, martial arts teacher, business coach, business coaching, executive coaching, entrepreneurship, entrepreneur, entrepreneurship in dentistry, dental entrepreneurship, business education, leadership, business leadership, leadership development, personal development, professional development, confidence, discipline, competition, competitive mindset, competitive business, business strategy, business growth, business mindset, business success, business lessons, business coaching for dental labs, coaching, mentorship, motivation, inspiration, risk taking, taking risks, calculated risk, risk management, early adopter, early adoption, innovation, innovation in dentistry, dental innovation, business innovation, pivot, pivoting, business pivot, pivot strategy, knowing when to pivot, adapting, adaptability, business adaptability, change management, navigating change, industry change, industry disruption, disruption, dental industry disruption, future of dental labs, future of dentistry, future of dental technology, evolving dental industry, evolving dental labs, technology, emerging technology, dental technology trends, artificial intelligence, AI, AI in dentistry, AI in dental labs, 3D printing, dental 3D printing, digital dentistry, digital dental laboratory, digital workflow, digital workflow dentistry, technology adoption, technology trends, automation, dental automation, DSO, DSOs, dental service organizations, DSO growth, DSO relationships, dental laboratory business strategy, pricing, dental lab pricing, pricing strategy, value, perceived value, competing on value, race to the bottom, competition, market competition, competitive advantage, differentiation, business decisions, decision making, strategic thinking, business strategy, tactical strategy, execution, actionable advice, business growth strategy, business planning, strategic planning, business opportunities, identifying opportunities, finding opportunities, overcoming challenges, business challenges, dental lab challenges, industry challenges, problem solving, innovation mindset, growth mindset, failure, learning from failure, business failure, entrepreneurial failure, resilience, perseverance, persistence, taking action, taking chances, winning, competition mindset, fighting analogy, martial arts mindset, martial arts business lessons, karate business lessons, board breaking, five year old board break moment, confidence building, empowerment, unlocking potential, unlocking success, coaching mindset, coach, mentorship, leadership coaching, business transformation, organizational growth, company culture, workplace culture, employee culture, employee morale, team building, team leadership, team development, dental lab employees, dental lab teams, small business, small business leadership, small business growth, family business, family business leadership, dental family business, Nowak Dental Supplies, dental supplies, dental supply industry, dental supply company, dental vendors, dental vendor education, dental vendor community, dental laboratory community, dental industry community, industry networking, dental networking, professional networking, New Orleans, Louisiana, NOLA LabFest 2026, dental conference 2026, dental education 2026, dental laboratory conference, dental laboratory event, dental laboratory conference 2026, dental technology conference, dental technician conference, dental lab networking, dental lab seminars, dental lab keynote, dental lab speakers, dental lab business education, dental lab leadership education, dental lab innovation, dental lab technology, dental lab future, dental lab trends, dental lab strategy, dental lab owners conference, dental lab operators conference, dental lab entrepreneurs, dental lab entrepreneurship, dental laboratory leadership, dental laboratory management, dental laboratory innovation, dental laboratory technology, dental laboratory trends, dental laboratory strategy, dental laboratory networking, dental laboratory conference, Voices From the Bench, Voices From the Bench podcast, dental podcast, dental laboratory podcast, dental technician podcast, dental technology podcast, dental industry podcast, Elvis, Barb, podcast, podcast episode, dental education podcast, dental business podcast, martial arts and business, karate and business, lessons from martial arts, business lessons from karate, leadership lessons from martial arts, competition and business, pivoting in business, adapting to technology, future proofing, future proofing your dental lab, thriving in dentistry, thriving dental laboratory, staying relevant, dental lab growth strategy, dental laboratory growth strategy, business evolution, industry evolution, technology adoption, strategic pivot, business resilience, entrepreneurial mindset, leadership mindset, growth mindset, competitive advantage, business coaching, executive leadership, dental laboratory owner, dental laboratory operator, dental laboratory entrepreneur, dental laboratory management, dental laboratory success, dental laboratory growth, dental laboratory strategy, dental laboratory leadership, dental laboratory technology, dental laboratory innovation, dental laboratory future, dental laboratory trends, dental laboratory education, dental laboratory networking, dental laboratory community, dental laboratory business owner, dental laboratory business strategy, dental laboratory conference, NOLA dental lab, New Orleans dental laboratory, New Orleans dental conference, dental lab events, dental lab education events, dental lab networking events, dental lab business coaching, dental lab leadership coaching, dental lab innovation strategies, dental lab pivot strategies, dental lab technology adoption, dental lab AI, AI dental laboratory, 3D printing dental laboratory, digital dental technology, dental lab automation, dental lab transformation, business transformation, leadership transformation, entrepreneurial leadership, strategic leadership, business performance, business development, business opportunity, industry trends, future trends, dental laboratory future trends, dental technology future, dental business future, dental lab owners, dental technicians, dental technologist, dental professionals, dental professionals education, dental professionals networking, dental industry networking, dental industry events, dental industry conference, dental industry speakers, dental industry business, dental industry leadership, dental industry innovation, dental industry technology, dental industry future, New Orleans events, NOLA events, NOLA conference, NOLA LabFest speakers, NOLA LabFest education, NOLA LabFest keynote, NOLA LabFest dental, NOLA LabFest dental laboratory, NOLA LabFest 2026, Nowak Dental Supplies NOLA LabFest, Jude Grayson NOLA LabFest, Shawn Nowak NOLA LabFest, karate at dental conference, martial arts at dental conference, unexpected dental speaker, unconventional speaker, unconventional business lessons, business mindset for dental labs, leadership for dental labs, strategy for dental labs, innovation for dental labs, growth for dental labs, change for dental labs, technology for dental labs, future of dental laboratory industry, dental lab podcast episode, dental technician podcast episode, dental industry podcast episode, Voices From the Bench podcast episode</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hello, Voices of the Bench community. This is Casey Baldwin with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS emax Zirconia</a>, offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help you save valuable production time while maintaining consistent outcomes. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out today and discover how I<a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener">PS emax Zirconia</a> can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.</h3>

<p>Join us at the Race For the Future 12 to raise money for the <a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Foundation For Dental Laborary Technology</a>. September 27th in Valley View, Texas!</p>

<p><a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/</a></p>

<p><strong>Shawn Nowak</strong> from Nowak Dental Supplies joins Elvis and Barb to talk all things <a href="https://www.nolalabfest.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">NOLA LabFest</a> October 15-17th, including the welcome addition to the speaker lineup: martial arts instructor and business coach <strong>Jude Grayson</strong>. After Jude’s keynote at last year’s LabFest, the response was strong enough to bring him back for another keynote and a breakout session. The conversation starts with the obvious question: what the heck does a karate instructor know about the dental laboratory industry?</p>

<p>As Jude explains, quite a bit. Having practiced martial arts since he was five years old and built a career around teaching, competition, entrepreneurship, and business coaching, Jude draws a surprising number of parallels between martial arts and business. He talks about discipline, competition, confidence, risk, and his “five-year-old board break moment”—the idea that sometimes the ability to succeed is already inside us, and the right coach simply helps unlock it. He also explains how those lessons translate into working with business owners and helping them recognize opportunities they may not see themselves.</p>

<p>The conversation then turns toward one of the biggest challenges facing dental laboratories today: knowing when it’s time to pivot. With technology, AI, 3D printing, changing doctor workflows, and the evolving DSO landscape continuing to reshape the industry, Jude’s NOLA LabFest keynote will focus on how business owners can recognize when change is necessary, decide when to act, and understand the risks that come with being an early adopter. He also shares some great perspective on failure, competition, and why making a bad business decision doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve lost—the real loss comes when you stop competing altogether.</p>

<p>Shawn also gives us a look at what else is happening at NOLA LabFest, including education on AI, social media marketing, employee culture, DSOs, and other topics affecting dental laboratories right now. And, of course, there’s plenty of the NOLA LabFest fun mixed in, from the masquerade party and distillery tour to the return of Family Feud. It’s a conversation about business, leadership, taking risks, and finding ways to keep dental laboratories moving forward—and it all starts with a karate instructor walking into a dental show.</p><p>Special Guests: Jude Grayson and Shawn Nowak.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hello, Voices of the Bench community. This is Casey Baldwin with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS emax Zirconia</a>, offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help you save valuable production time while maintaining consistent outcomes. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out today and discover how I<a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener">PS emax Zirconia</a> can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.</h3>

<p>Join us at the Race For the Future 12 to raise money for the <a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Foundation For Dental Laborary Technology</a>. September 27th in Valley View, Texas!</p>

<p><a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/</a></p>

<p><strong>Shawn Nowak</strong> from Nowak Dental Supplies joins Elvis and Barb to talk all things <a href="https://www.nolalabfest.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">NOLA LabFest</a> October 15-17th, including the welcome addition to the speaker lineup: martial arts instructor and business coach <strong>Jude Grayson</strong>. After Jude’s keynote at last year’s LabFest, the response was strong enough to bring him back for another keynote and a breakout session. The conversation starts with the obvious question: what the heck does a karate instructor know about the dental laboratory industry?</p>

<p>As Jude explains, quite a bit. Having practiced martial arts since he was five years old and built a career around teaching, competition, entrepreneurship, and business coaching, Jude draws a surprising number of parallels between martial arts and business. He talks about discipline, competition, confidence, risk, and his “five-year-old board break moment”—the idea that sometimes the ability to succeed is already inside us, and the right coach simply helps unlock it. He also explains how those lessons translate into working with business owners and helping them recognize opportunities they may not see themselves.</p>

<p>The conversation then turns toward one of the biggest challenges facing dental laboratories today: knowing when it’s time to pivot. With technology, AI, 3D printing, changing doctor workflows, and the evolving DSO landscape continuing to reshape the industry, Jude’s NOLA LabFest keynote will focus on how business owners can recognize when change is necessary, decide when to act, and understand the risks that come with being an early adopter. He also shares some great perspective on failure, competition, and why making a bad business decision doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve lost—the real loss comes when you stop competing altogether.</p>

<p>Shawn also gives us a look at what else is happening at NOLA LabFest, including education on AI, social media marketing, employee culture, DSOs, and other topics affecting dental laboratories right now. And, of course, there’s plenty of the NOLA LabFest fun mixed in, from the masquerade party and distillery tour to the return of Family Feud. It’s a conversation about business, leadership, taking risks, and finding ways to keep dental laboratories moving forward—and it all starts with a karate instructor walking into a dental show.</p><p>Special Guests: Jude Grayson and Shawn Nowak.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
</item>
<item>
  <title>437: Phillip Gold: The Gold Standard of Dental Technology </title>
  <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/437</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="false">59b782dd-55b4-4f67-a128-668878d0dff8</guid>
  <pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/59b782dd-55b4-4f67-a128-668878d0dff8.mp3" length="62339328" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episode>437</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Phillip Gold: The Gold Standard of Dental Technology </itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This week we sit down with Philip Gold to hear the incredible story of growing up in a dental laboratory, taking over his family’s lab, and building a career centered around relationships, education, and giving back to the industry. Philip shares stories from his journey, the evolution of dental technology, and what drove him to earn an impressive six CDT certifications—including digital. It’s a great conversation about family, legacy, leadership, and the people who make this industry so special.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:04:52</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/episodes/5/59b782dd-55b4-4f67-a128-668878d0dff8/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt;. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS Emax Zirconia&lt;/a&gt; offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why &lt;a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Knight Dental&lt;/a&gt; recently launched &lt;strong&gt;SimplyARCH Studio&lt;/strong&gt;, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,&lt;a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Invisible Profession&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This week on Voices From the Bench, we finally sit down with someone we’ve been wanting to have on the show for a LONG time—&lt;strong&gt;Philip Gold&lt;/strong&gt;! Philip grew up in the dental laboratory, quite literally pulling teeth out of formaldehyde bottles in his father Raymond Gold’s lab in Atlanta. His father started the laboratory in 1946, and Philip eventually found himself following in those footsteps, although not without first taking a seven-year detour working for Williams Gold. That experience gave him the opportunity to visit laboratories all over the country, learn from some of the best in the industry, and see firsthand how different labs operated.&lt;br&gt;
Philip eventually returned to the family laboratory in 1980 and began the process of taking over from his father. What followed was a career built around learning, adapting, building teams, and—most importantly—relationships. Philip shares what it was like stepping into a leadership role at a young age, earning the respect of experienced technicians, and learning that being a leader isn’t about knowing everything yourself, but understanding the work well enough to help the people around you succeed. He also talks about selling the laboratory to National Dentex with the goal of giving the business and its people an opportunity to continue growing, only to eventually find his way back into the laboratory world with By Design Dental Studio alongside his daughter Katie and Denise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And if you know Philip, you know he’s never stopped learning. He currently holds six CDT certifications, including ceramics, crown and bridge, partials, implants, dentures, and digital. His story about preparing for the digital practical exam is a perfect example of his determination—his first practice run took seven and a half hours for an exam designed to be completed in just over five. So he reorganized, practiced again, changed his workflow, and eventually got it down to under five hours. And of course, Philip isn’t pursuing certifications just for himself. He wants to set an example, motivate the next generation of technicians, and encourage more people in the laboratory to continue learning.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We also get into the importance of customer service, why relationships are at the heart of this industry, and why sometimes the best thing a laboratory can do is simply pick up the phone and help. Philip shares his philosophy that when something goes wrong, you drop everything and make it right. We talk about giving back to the industry, the people who helped shape Philip’s career, and how the dental laboratory community has always been willing to share knowledge when you’re willing to ask. And yes… somewhere along the way we also hear the greatest “okey-doke” story in dental laboratory history. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Special Guest: Phillip Gold.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Philip Gold, Philip Gold, Voices From the Bench, dental laboratory, dental lab, dental technician, dental technology, dental industry, dental technician life, dental laboratory history, dental lab history, dental education, dental education history, dental lab education, dental craftsmanship, dental craftsmanship, dental career, dental career story, dental family, family business, family laboratory, family legacy, dental legacy, laboratory legacy, Raymond Gold, Oral Arts, By Design Dental Studio, By Design, National Dentex, NDX, Williams Gold, Williams Gold Refining Company, Ivoclar, dental materials, gold dentistry, gold alloy, gold work, casting, dental casting, crown and bridge, crown and bridge technician, ceramics, dental ceramics, ceramic technician, porcelain, porcelain fused to metal, PFM, jacket crowns, Empress, e.max, dentures, denture technician, partial dentures, removable prosthetics, implants, implant dentistry, implant technician, digital dentistry, digital dental laboratory, digital workflow, dental CAD, dental CAM, milling, dental milling, dental mills, 3D printing, dental printers, dental technology, digital technician, dental laboratory equipment, dental lab equipment, CDT, Certified Dental Technician, CDT certification, CDT exam, dental certification, digital CDT, ceramics CDT, crown and bridge CDT, partials CDT, dentures CDT, implants CDT, digital certification, dental certification exam, NBC, National Board for Certification, dental laboratory certification, dental technician certification, dental education, continuing education, dental training, dental mentorship, dental mentoring, laboratory leadership, dental leadership, lab management, dental lab management, laboratory management, team building, leadership, succession planning, family business succession, business development, customer service, dental lab customer service, client relationships, doctor relationships, dentist relationships, laboratory relationships, customer relationships, business relationships, account management, business development, sales, dental sales, dental laboratory sales, lab sales, relationship business, dental practice relationships, dental practice, dental offices, dentist, dentists, dental community, dental laboratory community, dental industry community, giving back, industry leadership, industry involvement, professional development, professional growth, technician development, technician education, mentorship, learning, lifelong learning, skills development, troubleshooting, quality control, dental lab quality control, diagnostics, dental diagnostics, diagnostic wax-up, wax-up, dental waxing, dental wax-up, analog dentistry, analog dental laboratory, digital workflow, digital dentistry, dental CAD CAM, dental milling workflow, dental laboratory workflow, dental technology evolution, evolution of dentistry, history of dentistry, dental history, laboratory history, dental industry history, dental innovation, dental innovation history, dental materials history, dental education history, dental laboratory education, laboratory culture, work ethic, dental work ethic, first one in last one out, laboratory team, dental laboratory team, technician leadership, experienced technician, master technician, master CDT, six CDT certifications, six certifications, dental excellence, technical excellence, clinical excellence, quality dentistry, restorative dentistry, prosthodontics, dental prosthetics, dental restorations, restorative dental technology, dental craftsmanship, dental artistry, dental anatomy, occlusion, color science, dental anatomy and occlusion, certification preparation, CDT exam preparation, dental exam preparation, practical exam, digital practical exam, dental technology exam, study for CDT, dental certification study, AI in dentistry, AI for dental technicians, ChatGPT, artificial intelligence, dental AI, AI education, AI learning, dental technician study tools, dental technology education, dental laboratory innovation, industry mentors, dental mentors, industry networking, dental networking, professional networking, dental conferences, dental meetings, dental organizations, dental boards, dental associations, NADL, NBC, Cal Lab, dental laboratory leadership, dental laboratory business, laboratory ownership, dental lab ownership, family-owned laboratory, independent dental laboratory, corporate dentistry, corporate dental laboratory, laboratory acquisition, dental lab acquisition, laboratory transition, business transition, succession, business succession, laboratory succession, legacy business, generational business, father and son, father and daughter, family in dentistry, dental family business, next generation, next generation dental technicians, dental technician career, career development, dental laboratory career, dental industry career, dental technician mentorship, dental technician community, dental lab stories, dental industry stories, dental history stories, dental podcast, dental podcasts, Voices From the Bench podcast, dental podcast interview, dental laboratory podcast, dental technician podcast, dental technology podcast, dental industry podcast, laboratory stories, dental lab stories, technician stories, behind the scenes dental lab, life in the dental lab, dental lab culture, dental lab relationships, customer service philosophy, client retention, account retention, dental laboratory growth, laboratory growth, business growth, dental business, dental business development, dental entrepreneurship, dental entrepreneur, laboratory entrepreneur, dental lab owner, dental laboratory owner, laboratory operator, dental professional, dental professionals, dental technician community, dental education community, dental technology community, dental materials, dental equipment, dental workflows, dental manufacturing, dental manufacturing technology, dental production, dental production workflow, dental quality, dental quality control, dental laboratory standards, professional standards, dental professionalism, dental industry leadership, dental industry education, dental industry mentorship, dental industry networking, dental industry relationships, dental industry legacy, dental laboratory legacy, family legacy, professional legacy, learning from experience, learning from mentors, sharing knowledge, knowledge sharing, industry camaraderie, dental community support, supporting technicians, technician advocacy, certification advocacy, professional certification, continuing education, career longevity, lifetime in dentistry, lifetime in dental laboratory, decades in dentistry, decades in the dental lab, dental veteran, dental industry veteran, dental laboratory veteran, experienced dental technician, master dental technician, dental technology veteran, dental laboratory expert, dental technician expert, Philip Gold interview, Philip Gold podcast, Philip Gold dental laboratory, Philip Gold CDT, Philip Gold dental technician, dental laboratory stories, dental technician stories, Voices From the Bench, Barb, Elvis, Barb and Elvis, dental lab podcast, dental tech podcast</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</h3>

<p>This week on Voices From the Bench, we finally sit down with someone we’ve been wanting to have on the show for a LONG time—<strong>Philip Gold</strong>! Philip grew up in the dental laboratory, quite literally pulling teeth out of formaldehyde bottles in his father Raymond Gold’s lab in Atlanta. His father started the laboratory in 1946, and Philip eventually found himself following in those footsteps, although not without first taking a seven-year detour working for Williams Gold. That experience gave him the opportunity to visit laboratories all over the country, learn from some of the best in the industry, and see firsthand how different labs operated.<br>
Philip eventually returned to the family laboratory in 1980 and began the process of taking over from his father. What followed was a career built around learning, adapting, building teams, and—most importantly—relationships. Philip shares what it was like stepping into a leadership role at a young age, earning the respect of experienced technicians, and learning that being a leader isn’t about knowing everything yourself, but understanding the work well enough to help the people around you succeed. He also talks about selling the laboratory to National Dentex with the goal of giving the business and its people an opportunity to continue growing, only to eventually find his way back into the laboratory world with By Design Dental Studio alongside his daughter Katie and Denise.</p>

<p>And if you know Philip, you know he’s never stopped learning. He currently holds six CDT certifications, including ceramics, crown and bridge, partials, implants, dentures, and digital. His story about preparing for the digital practical exam is a perfect example of his determination—his first practice run took seven and a half hours for an exam designed to be completed in just over five. So he reorganized, practiced again, changed his workflow, and eventually got it down to under five hours. And of course, Philip isn’t pursuing certifications just for himself. He wants to set an example, motivate the next generation of technicians, and encourage more people in the laboratory to continue learning.</p>

<p>We also get into the importance of customer service, why relationships are at the heart of this industry, and why sometimes the best thing a laboratory can do is simply pick up the phone and help. Philip shares his philosophy that when something goes wrong, you drop everything and make it right. We talk about giving back to the industry, the people who helped shape Philip’s career, and how the dental laboratory community has always been willing to share knowledge when you’re willing to ask. And yes… somewhere along the way we also hear the greatest “okey-doke” story in dental laboratory history. </p><p>Special Guest: Phillip Gold.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</h3>

<p>This week on Voices From the Bench, we finally sit down with someone we’ve been wanting to have on the show for a LONG time—<strong>Philip Gold</strong>! Philip grew up in the dental laboratory, quite literally pulling teeth out of formaldehyde bottles in his father Raymond Gold’s lab in Atlanta. His father started the laboratory in 1946, and Philip eventually found himself following in those footsteps, although not without first taking a seven-year detour working for Williams Gold. That experience gave him the opportunity to visit laboratories all over the country, learn from some of the best in the industry, and see firsthand how different labs operated.<br>
Philip eventually returned to the family laboratory in 1980 and began the process of taking over from his father. What followed was a career built around learning, adapting, building teams, and—most importantly—relationships. Philip shares what it was like stepping into a leadership role at a young age, earning the respect of experienced technicians, and learning that being a leader isn’t about knowing everything yourself, but understanding the work well enough to help the people around you succeed. He also talks about selling the laboratory to National Dentex with the goal of giving the business and its people an opportunity to continue growing, only to eventually find his way back into the laboratory world with By Design Dental Studio alongside his daughter Katie and Denise.</p>

<p>And if you know Philip, you know he’s never stopped learning. He currently holds six CDT certifications, including ceramics, crown and bridge, partials, implants, dentures, and digital. His story about preparing for the digital practical exam is a perfect example of his determination—his first practice run took seven and a half hours for an exam designed to be completed in just over five. So he reorganized, practiced again, changed his workflow, and eventually got it down to under five hours. And of course, Philip isn’t pursuing certifications just for himself. He wants to set an example, motivate the next generation of technicians, and encourage more people in the laboratory to continue learning.</p>

<p>We also get into the importance of customer service, why relationships are at the heart of this industry, and why sometimes the best thing a laboratory can do is simply pick up the phone and help. Philip shares his philosophy that when something goes wrong, you drop everything and make it right. We talk about giving back to the industry, the people who helped shape Philip’s career, and how the dental laboratory community has always been willing to share knowledge when you’re willing to ask. And yes… somewhere along the way we also hear the greatest “okey-doke” story in dental laboratory history. </p><p>Special Guest: Phillip Gold.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
</item>
<item>
  <title>Episode 435: Matt Everatt is Making the Invisible Profession Visible</title>
  <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/435</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="false">ed9fc032-5e17-4aba-828d-b7bdf1a0f686</guid>
  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/ed9fc032-5e17-4aba-828d-b7bdf1a0f686.mp3" length="56547072" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episode>435</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>Matt Everatt is Making the Invisible Profession Visible</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb to talk about his incredible journey through the dental laboratory industry, from maxillofacial prosthetics and sleep apnea appliances to co-founding a successful dental lab and eventually writing The Invisible Profession. They dive into the challenges facing dental technicians, the dangers of becoming a "busy fool," and why embracing technology, standing out, and becoming a true clinical partner are essential for the future of the laboratory industry.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>58:50</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e7665600-2cb9-4cb2-b0ba-2eada9f69007/episodes/e/ed9fc032-5e17-4aba-828d-b7bdf1a0f686/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt;. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS Emax Zirconia&lt;/a&gt; offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why &lt;a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Knight Dental&lt;/a&gt; recently launched &lt;strong&gt;SimplyARCH Studio&lt;/strong&gt;, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,&lt;a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Invisible Profession&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book, &lt;a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Invisible Profession&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But this conversation goes far beyond Matt's career. His book,&lt;a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Invisible Profession&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, explores how the dental laboratory industry arrived at a place where technicians and laboratories are often undervalued, pushed into price competition, and expected to simply keep their heads down and produce. Matt shares his thoughts on the "million little things" that shaped the industry, the danger of becoming a "busy fool," and why laboratories need to stop competing solely on price and start becoming known for the value, expertise, and partnership they bring to the dental team. Elvis, Barb, and Matt also talk about the changing landscape of digital dentistry, AI, 3D printing, speed, service, and why the labs that embrace change and remain agile will be the ones positioned for the future. It's an honest, thought-provoking, and ultimately optimistic conversation about where the dental laboratory profession has been, where it is today, and where it can go next. Special Guest: Matt Everatt.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>dental laboratory, dental lab, dental technician, dental technology, dental industry, dental laboratory industry, dental technicians, maxillofacial prosthetics, maxillofacial technology, anaplastology, facial prosthetics, ocular prosthetics, artificial eyes, artificial ears, prosthetics, obturators, dentures, orthodontics, orthodontic appliances, orthodontic technology, crown and bridge, ceramist, dental ceramics, occlusal splints, bite splints, night guards, sleep apnea, sleep apnea appliances, sleep dentistry, mandibular advancement devices, mandibular advancement splints, oral appliances, snoring, anti-snoring devices, sleep medicine, airway health, dental sleep medicine, dental lab business, dental laboratory business, dental lab management, dental lab owner, dental lab entrepreneur, dental business, business strategy, business coaching, business growth, entrepreneurship, serial entrepreneur, private dental laboratory, commercial dental laboratory, independent dental lab, independent dental laboratory, dental lab leadership, laboratory leadership, team building, company culture, workplace culture, employee engagement, staff development, education, mentorship, professional development, dental technician education, dental technology education, dental career, dental technician career, career change, career development, career journey, NHS dentistry, private dentistry, dental insurance, dental industry history, history of dental technology, dental profession, invisible profession, The Invisible Profession, Matt Everatt, Matthew Everatt, S4S, Solutions for Snoring, sleep apnea lab, snoring lab, dental lab innovation, dental innovation, dental technology innovation, digital dentistry, digital dental laboratory, digital workflow, dental CAD CAM, CAD CAM dentistry, 3D printing, additive manufacturing, artificial intelligence, AI in dentistry, AI dental technology, dental technology trends, future of dentistry, future of dental technology, future of dental laboratories, future of dental technicians, dental lab future, evolving dental industry, changing dental industry, industry transformation, dental laboratory transformation, technology adoption, digital transformation, innovation, adaptability, agile business, agile dental laboratory, business agility, embracing technology, modern dental laboratory, modern dental technology, emerging technology, dental technology advancements, dental lab workflow, laboratory workflow, efficiency, productivity, business efficiency, workflow optimization, turnaround time, fast turnaround, same day dentistry, rapid turnaround, premium service, premium pricing, value-based service, customer service, client service, dental practice support, dental practice partnership, clinical partnership, clinical partner, dentist technician relationship, dentist laboratory relationship, dental team, dental team collaboration, dentist laboratory communication, doctor technician communication, dental laboratory communication, collaboration, teamwork, communication, relationship building, trusted advisor, clinical expertise, technical expertise, dental expertise, laboratory expertise, specialized services, specialization, finding your niche, niche marketing, differentiation, competitive advantage, standing out, brand positioning, business identity, value proposition, value over price, competing on price, price competition, dental lab pricing, laboratory pricing, race to the bottom, low-cost dentistry, premium dentistry, premium dental laboratory, quality dentistry, quality dental laboratory, quality over price, pricing strategy, profitability, dental lab profitability, business profitability, revenue growth, sustainable growth, sustainable business, business sustainability, business systems, systemization, systemized business, working on the business, working in the business, delegation, leadership development, scaling a business, scaling a dental lab, business systems, operational efficiency, business processes, process improvement, organizational growth, business coach, business coaching, exit strategy, business exit, succession planning, lab ownership, business ownership, private ownership, private equity, corporate dentistry, corporate dental laboratories, independent ownership, lab acquisition, dental lab acquisitions, COVID-19, COVID impact, business resilience, resilience, overcoming adversity, professional challenges, industry challenges, regulatory challenges, dental regulation, dental regulatory authority, dental industry regulation, illegal manufacturing, industry standards, professional standards, dental technician recognition, professional recognition, respect for dental technicians, valuing dental technicians, technician visibility, invisible profession, professional identity, professional respect, technician advocacy, industry advocacy, speaking out, leadership, positive mindset, positivity, personal growth, professional growth, mindset, growth mindset, inspiration, motivation, positive culture, uplifting others, inspiring others, professional community, dental community, industry community, collaboration over competition, sharing knowledge, knowledge sharing, open laboratories, lab visits, dental lab networking, dental industry networking, dental conferences, dental trade shows, professional networking, peer support, community support, dental podcast, Voices From the Bench, Elvis, Barb, dental podcast interview, dental laboratory podcast, dental technology podcast, dental industry podcast, podcast guest, podcast conversation, industry stories, technician stories, dental technician stories, laboratory stories, career stories, professional journey, entrepreneurial journey, personal journey, lessons learned, industry perspective, dental lab perspective, technician perspective, UK dental laboratory, British dental technician, United Kingdom dentistry, UK dental industry, US dental industry, international dentistry, global dental industry, dental technology worldwide, transatlantic dental conversation, dental laboratory trends, industry trends, technology trends, AI trends, digital workflow, digital lab, 3D printing dentistry, CAD CAM, milling, dental milling, dental manufacturing, dental manufacturing technology, laboratory manufacturing, custom appliances, custom dental appliances, retainers, bleaching trays, study models, twin blocks, orthodontic retainers, dental splints, occlusal appliances, cranioplasty, cranial implants, skull plates, maxillofacial surgery, neurosurgery, hospital dentistry, teaching hospitals, hospital laboratory, hospital dental technology, NHS dental laboratory, private dental laboratory, dental healthcare, healthcare innovation, healthcare technology, patient care, patient experience, patient outcomes, improving patient care, improving patient experience, dental practice growth, dental practice success, lab practice partnership, dentist collaboration, technician collaboration, clinical workflow, patient-centered care, service excellence, premium turnaround, rapid service, Amazon Prime, on-demand service, customer expectations, changing customer expectations, speed of service, convenience, modern consumers, digital consumers, instant gratification, service innovation, business innovation, market disruption, disruptive technology, Netflix, Blockbuster, LoveFilm, business disruption, digital disruption, industry disruption, adapting to change, don't be Blockbuster, future-proofing, future-proof your lab, future-proofing dental labs, embracing change, change management, professional evolution, industry evolution, dental laboratory evolution, technology and dentistry, AI and dentistry, digital dentistry revolution, dental technology revolution, laboratory revolution, dental lab modernization, modern dental technician, modern dental technician career, next generation technicians, future technicians, attracting technicians, technician shortage, dental technician shortage, workforce challenges, recruitment, dental recruitment, dental nurse recruitment, talent acquisition, employee retention, staff retention, hiring technicians, training technicians, developing technicians, building teams, empowering employees, team members, employees as partners, people-first business, people management, leadership lessons, business lessons, entrepreneurial lessons, lessons from failure, lessons from success, career inspiration, industry inspiration, dental technology inspiration, professional motivation, personal development, business mindset, entrepreneurial mindset, positive business culture, building a business, growing a business, starting a dental lab, starting a business, lab startup, dental startup, startup strategy, marketing, dental lab marketing, marketing strategy, business marketing, content marketing, thought leadership, writing, professional writing, dental publications, dental magazines, Dental Technician magazine, Laboratory magazine, industry journalism, dental journalism, LinkedIn, professional articles, industry commentary, book writing, writing a book, publishing, audiobook, Audible, author, dental industry author, nonfiction, professional book, industry book, motivational book, business book, career book, book review, book recommendation, The Invisible Profession book, dental technician book, dental lab book, reading, audiobooks, storytelling, sharing stories, telling the story, industry history, professional history, industry future, hope for the future, positive future, better future, reinventing the industry, changing the narrative, changing the profession, elevating dental technology, elevating dental technicians, raising the profile, professional pride, pride in dentistry, pride in dental technology, pride in laboratory work, craftsmanship, artistry, skilled craftsmanship, skilled technicians, technical skill, creativity, precision, attention to detail, artistry in dentistry, artisan, dental artisans, laboratory artisans, skilled trades, skilled profession, hidden profession, behind the scenes, behind the smile, behind the restoration, dental laboratory professionals, dental laboratory workforce, dental technology professionals, dental professionals, oral health professionals, healthcare professionals, professional excellence, excellence in dentistry, excellence in dental technology, quality craftsmanship, craftsmanship in dentistry, technical excellence, clinical excellence, service excellence, business excellence, leadership excellence, innovation in dentistry, innovation in dental labs, the future is digital, digital future, AI future, technology future, dental technology future, industry optimism, optimism, hope, opportunity, opportunity in dentistry, opportunity in dental labs, opportunity in technology, business opportunities, growth opportunities, new opportunities, embracing opportunity, making a difference, impact, professional impact, patient impact, changing lives, saving lives, saving marriages, sleep apnea treatment, better sleep, better health, better patient outcomes, helping patients, improving lives, dental sleep medicine innovation, airway appliances, sleep appliances, oral appliance therapy, snoring treatment, sleep quality, quality of life, dental laboratory success, dental lab success, successful dental labs, successful dental businesses, successful technicians, successful entrepreneurs, Matt Everatt interview, Voices From the Bench interview, Voices From the Bench podcast, dental laboratory podcast episode, dental technology podcast episode, dental technician podcast, dental lab industry podcast</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</h3>

<p>Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book, <a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</p>

<p>But this conversation goes far beyond Matt's career. His book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>, explores how the dental laboratory industry arrived at a place where technicians and laboratories are often undervalued, pushed into price competition, and expected to simply keep their heads down and produce. Matt shares his thoughts on the "million little things" that shaped the industry, the danger of becoming a "busy fool," and why laboratories need to stop competing solely on price and start becoming known for the value, expertise, and partnership they bring to the dental team. Elvis, Barb, and Matt also talk about the changing landscape of digital dentistry, AI, 3D printing, speed, service, and why the labs that embrace change and remain agile will be the ones positioned for the future. It's an honest, thought-provoking, and ultimately optimistic conversation about where the dental laboratory profession has been, where it is today, and where it can go next.</p><p>Special Guest: Matt Everatt.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</h3>

<p>Matt Everatt joins Elvis and Barb for a fascinating conversation that takes a deep dive into his journey through the dental laboratory industry and the story behind his book, <a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>. From discovering dental technology at 16 and specializing in maxillofacial prosthetics and orthodontics to working in hospitals, developing early sleep-apnea appliances, and nearly leaving the profession altogether, Matt's career has taken some seriously interesting turns. Eventually, he helped co-found S4S, building a successful business around sleep-apnea appliances, occlusal splints, orthodontics, and more before eventually stepping away from ownership.</p>

<p>But this conversation goes far beyond Matt's career. His book,<a href="https://a.co/d/04V5YKvu" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>The Invisible Profession</em></a>, explores how the dental laboratory industry arrived at a place where technicians and laboratories are often undervalued, pushed into price competition, and expected to simply keep their heads down and produce. Matt shares his thoughts on the "million little things" that shaped the industry, the danger of becoming a "busy fool," and why laboratories need to stop competing solely on price and start becoming known for the value, expertise, and partnership they bring to the dental team. Elvis, Barb, and Matt also talk about the changing landscape of digital dentistry, AI, 3D printing, speed, service, and why the labs that embrace change and remain agile will be the ones positioned for the future. It's an honest, thought-provoking, and ultimately optimistic conversation about where the dental laboratory profession has been, where it is today, and where it can go next.</p><p>Special Guest: Matt Everatt.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
</item>
  </channel>
</rss>
