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    <description>A weekly podcast dedicated to the dental laboratory industry. Featuring anyone associated with the profession from all over the world. Host are in their own dental laboratory every day making teeth and interviewing people from the industry on their time off. New episodes every Monday morning.</description>
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    <itunes:subtitle>A Dental Laboratory Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
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  <title>441: Amir Bagheri &amp; Dan Sinclair: A Touch of Magic Can Solve A Lot of Lab Issues</title>
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  <itunes:title>Amir Bagheri &amp; Dan Sinclair: A Touch of Magic Can Solve A Lot of Lab Issues</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Elvis sits down with Dan Sinclair and Amir Bagheri from Magic Touch Software to talk about the history of the company, how it grew from a small development project into a complete laboratory management system, and why they believe labs need more than just production tracking. They dive into automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and the importance of actually understanding how a lab operates before trying to improve it.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;h3&gt;What if zirconia could look even more like natural teeth?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;According to Dr. Ed McLaren, “Of all the zirconia’s he's tested, the optical properties of &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt;’s e.max zirconia are the closest to natural teeth.” (And I second that with everything I’ve see – if Barb does the read)&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Discover what’s redefining the possibilities with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS e.max Zirconia&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Join Dr. Ed McLaren for Zirconia Reimagined—an informative webinar exploring the latest advancements, clinical insights, and practical applications of zirconia in modern dentistry.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;October 5th @ 7:00 pm.  Register today at Vivalearning.com&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why &lt;a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Knight Dental&lt;/a&gt; recently launched &lt;strong&gt;SimplyARCH Studio&lt;/strong&gt;, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;hyperDENT&lt;/a&gt; helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What happens when you combine a family-run software company, decades of dental laboratory experience, and a mission to make labs run smarter? You get &lt;a href="https://www.magictouchsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Magic Touch Software&lt;/a&gt;. In this episode, Elvis sits down with &lt;strong&gt;Dan Sinclair&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Amir Bagheri&lt;/strong&gt; to dig into the history, philosophy, and technology behind Magic Touch and find out why they believe a laboratory management system should do a whole lot more than just track cases through production.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dan shares his unexpected journey back to Magic Touch after leaving the company, while Amir takes us all the way back to the 1990s and the origins of the software, including how his father, Gary, helped develop what would eventually become the foundation of Magic Touch through his work with Glidewell. The conversation dives into the evolution from production-focused LMS platforms to complete business management systems that bring customer management, accounting, inventory, automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and production workflows together in one place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We also get into one of the biggest challenges facing modern dental labs: digital case entry and the ever-growing pile of scanner portals and inboxes. Amir and Dan explain how Magic Touch can automate that process, reduce manual entry, minimize missed cases and errors, and give lab teams more time to actually work on cases instead of hunting them down. And if you've ever wondered how much time and money a lab can lose by having a collection of disconnected systems, this conversation makes a pretty compelling case for consolidation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But perhaps the biggest theme of the episode is that Magic Touch doesn't want to be just another software vendor. Their approach is built around implementation, consultation, process improvement, and helping labs understand what they actually want their business to look like before configuring the system to get them there. From breaking old habits to building super users, testing changes before they go live, and using data to identify where a lab needs to improve, the goal is to create a system that grows and changes with the business.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Hey, listeners—ever wonder what Elvis is doing when he’s not recording Voices from the Bench?&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;He’s a client rep for Derby Dental Laboratory, out in the field every day doing chairside visits and building relationships. His job is simple—keep doctors happy and keep them coming back.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;And he couldn’t do it without &lt;a href="https://www.icortica.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;icortica&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Right from his phone, Elvis can see sales, remake rates, account notes, risks, and cross-sell opportunities—even before he walks through the door. No spreadsheets. No surprises. Just the info he needs to grow accounts.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Stop digging for data and start taking action.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Head to icortica.com and schedule your demo today.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Dental lab owners and managers — are you spending too much time chasing paperwork, checking portals, tracking cases, and answering doctors asking, “Is my crown done yet?”&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;You didn’t start a dental lab to become a full-time paperwork wrangler. &lt;a href="https://labncloud.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LabNCloud&lt;/a&gt; is the all-in-one, cloud-based platform built by techs, for techs, with 90+ features to streamline your entire lab — from case tracking and invoicing to shipping, time tracking, doctor portals, and automatic digital file routing.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Stop managing chaos and start managing your lab. Visit LabNCloud.com to book your free personalized demo. And mention “Elvis is Handsome” to get your first month free.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;LabNCloud — the operating system for dental labs. Built by techs, for techs.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Amir Bagheri and Dan Sinclair.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<h3>What if zirconia could look even more like natural teeth?</h3>

<h3>According to Dr. Ed McLaren, “Of all the zirconia’s he's tested, the optical properties of <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>’s e.max zirconia are the closest to natural teeth.” (And I second that with everything I’ve see – if Barb does the read)</h3>

<h3>Discover what’s redefining the possibilities with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS e.max Zirconia</a>.</h3>

<h3>Join Dr. Ed McLaren for Zirconia Reimagined—an informative webinar exploring the latest advancements, clinical insights, and practical applications of zirconia in modern dentistry.</h3>

<h3>October 5th @ 7:00 pm.  Register today at Vivalearning.com</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.</h3>

<p>What happens when you combine a family-run software company, decades of dental laboratory experience, and a mission to make labs run smarter? You get <a href="https://www.magictouchsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Magic Touch Software</a>. In this episode, Elvis sits down with <strong>Dan Sinclair</strong> and <strong>Amir Bagheri</strong> to dig into the history, philosophy, and technology behind Magic Touch and find out why they believe a laboratory management system should do a whole lot more than just track cases through production.</p>

<p>Dan shares his unexpected journey back to Magic Touch after leaving the company, while Amir takes us all the way back to the 1990s and the origins of the software, including how his father, Gary, helped develop what would eventually become the foundation of Magic Touch through his work with Glidewell. The conversation dives into the evolution from production-focused LMS platforms to complete business management systems that bring customer management, accounting, inventory, automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and production workflows together in one place.</p>

<p>We also get into one of the biggest challenges facing modern dental labs: digital case entry and the ever-growing pile of scanner portals and inboxes. Amir and Dan explain how Magic Touch can automate that process, reduce manual entry, minimize missed cases and errors, and give lab teams more time to actually work on cases instead of hunting them down. And if you've ever wondered how much time and money a lab can lose by having a collection of disconnected systems, this conversation makes a pretty compelling case for consolidation.</p>

<p>But perhaps the biggest theme of the episode is that Magic Touch doesn't want to be just another software vendor. Their approach is built around implementation, consultation, process improvement, and helping labs understand what they actually want their business to look like before configuring the system to get them there. From breaking old habits to building super users, testing changes before they go live, and using data to identify where a lab needs to improve, the goal is to create a system that grows and changes with the business.</p>

<h3>Hey, listeners—ever wonder what Elvis is doing when he’s not recording Voices from the Bench?</h3>

<h3>He’s a client rep for Derby Dental Laboratory, out in the field every day doing chairside visits and building relationships. His job is simple—keep doctors happy and keep them coming back.</h3>

<h3>And he couldn’t do it without <a href="https://www.icortica.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">icortica</a>.</h3>

<h3>Right from his phone, Elvis can see sales, remake rates, account notes, risks, and cross-sell opportunities—even before he walks through the door. No spreadsheets. No surprises. Just the info he needs to grow accounts.</h3>

<h3>Stop digging for data and start taking action.</h3>

<h3>Head to icortica.com and schedule your demo today.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>Dental lab owners and managers — are you spending too much time chasing paperwork, checking portals, tracking cases, and answering doctors asking, “Is my crown done yet?”</h3>

<h3>You didn’t start a dental lab to become a full-time paperwork wrangler. <a href="https://labncloud.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">LabNCloud</a> is the all-in-one, cloud-based platform built by techs, for techs, with 90+ features to streamline your entire lab — from case tracking and invoicing to shipping, time tracking, doctor portals, and automatic digital file routing.</h3>

<h3>Stop managing chaos and start managing your lab. Visit LabNCloud.com to book your free personalized demo. And mention “Elvis is Handsome” to get your first month free.</h3>

<h3>LabNCloud — the operating system for dental labs. Built by techs, for techs.</h3><p>Special Guests: Amir Bagheri and Dan Sinclair.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<h3>What if zirconia could look even more like natural teeth?</h3>

<h3>According to Dr. Ed McLaren, “Of all the zirconia’s he's tested, the optical properties of <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>’s e.max zirconia are the closest to natural teeth.” (And I second that with everything I’ve see – if Barb does the read)</h3>

<h3>Discover what’s redefining the possibilities with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS e.max Zirconia</a>.</h3>

<h3>Join Dr. Ed McLaren for Zirconia Reimagined—an informative webinar exploring the latest advancements, clinical insights, and practical applications of zirconia in modern dentistry.</h3>

<h3>October 5th @ 7:00 pm.  Register today at Vivalearning.com</h3>

<hr>

<h3>As full-arch dentistry continues to grow, so do the demands on today's dental laboratories. That's why <a href="https://www.knightdentalgroup.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Knight Dental</a> recently launched <strong>SimplyARCH Studio</strong>, a dedicated production environment built exclusively for full-arch restorations. To support this specialized workflow, Knight invested in an XTCERA milling system and carefully evaluated multiple CAM software solutions before choosing <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"><strong>hyperDENT</strong></a>. The decision came down to exceptional milling quality, minimal hand finishing, and impressive production efficiency. But what truly set <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> apart was the implementation process. From the very beginning, the team provided more than software training—they shared the knowledge and experience needed to build an optimized workflow for complex full-arch cases. With proven expertise in advanced milling strategies and laboratory production, <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener">hyperDENT</a> helped ensure SimplyARCH Studio was designed for long-term success from day one.</h3>

<p>What happens when you combine a family-run software company, decades of dental laboratory experience, and a mission to make labs run smarter? You get <a href="https://www.magictouchsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Magic Touch Software</a>. In this episode, Elvis sits down with <strong>Dan Sinclair</strong> and <strong>Amir Bagheri</strong> to dig into the history, philosophy, and technology behind Magic Touch and find out why they believe a laboratory management system should do a whole lot more than just track cases through production.</p>

<p>Dan shares his unexpected journey back to Magic Touch after leaving the company, while Amir takes us all the way back to the 1990s and the origins of the software, including how his father, Gary, helped develop what would eventually become the foundation of Magic Touch through his work with Glidewell. The conversation dives into the evolution from production-focused LMS platforms to complete business management systems that bring customer management, accounting, inventory, automation, digital case entry, integrations, reporting, and production workflows together in one place.</p>

<p>We also get into one of the biggest challenges facing modern dental labs: digital case entry and the ever-growing pile of scanner portals and inboxes. Amir and Dan explain how Magic Touch can automate that process, reduce manual entry, minimize missed cases and errors, and give lab teams more time to actually work on cases instead of hunting them down. And if you've ever wondered how much time and money a lab can lose by having a collection of disconnected systems, this conversation makes a pretty compelling case for consolidation.</p>

<p>But perhaps the biggest theme of the episode is that Magic Touch doesn't want to be just another software vendor. Their approach is built around implementation, consultation, process improvement, and helping labs understand what they actually want their business to look like before configuring the system to get them there. From breaking old habits to building super users, testing changes before they go live, and using data to identify where a lab needs to improve, the goal is to create a system that grows and changes with the business.</p>

<h3>Hey, listeners—ever wonder what Elvis is doing when he’s not recording Voices from the Bench?</h3>

<h3>He’s a client rep for Derby Dental Laboratory, out in the field every day doing chairside visits and building relationships. His job is simple—keep doctors happy and keep them coming back.</h3>

<h3>And he couldn’t do it without <a href="https://www.icortica.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">icortica</a>.</h3>

<h3>Right from his phone, Elvis can see sales, remake rates, account notes, risks, and cross-sell opportunities—even before he walks through the door. No spreadsheets. No surprises. Just the info he needs to grow accounts.</h3>

<h3>Stop digging for data and start taking action.</h3>

<h3>Head to icortica.com and schedule your demo today.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>Dental lab owners and managers — are you spending too much time chasing paperwork, checking portals, tracking cases, and answering doctors asking, “Is my crown done yet?”</h3>

<h3>You didn’t start a dental lab to become a full-time paperwork wrangler. <a href="https://labncloud.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">LabNCloud</a> is the all-in-one, cloud-based platform built by techs, for techs, with 90+ features to streamline your entire lab — from case tracking and invoicing to shipping, time tracking, doctor portals, and automatic digital file routing.</h3>

<h3>Stop managing chaos and start managing your lab. Visit LabNCloud.com to book your free personalized demo. And mention “Elvis is Handsome” to get your first month free.</h3>

<h3>LabNCloud — the operating system for dental labs. Built by techs, for techs.</h3><p>Special Guests: Amir Bagheri and Dan Sinclair.</p>]]>
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  <title>Episode 431: exocad Insights 2026 Part 5: Beth Collington, Josh Jakson, &amp; Robert Norton</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>While at Exocad Insights in Mallorca, Elvis and Barb catch up with Beth Collington, President of Exocad America, to discuss the continued growth of digital dentistry, the importance of education, and how Exocad is helping make digital workflows more accessible across the industry.

Then Josh Jackson and Robert Norton join the conversation to share insights from the lab and training side of Exocad. From AI Crown and Crown Finalization to creative applications beyond dentistry, they discuss the latest innovations, real-world workflows, and where digital technology is taking the profession next.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>56:10</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt;. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS Emax Zirconia&lt;/a&gt; offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;At exocad Insights in beautiful Mallorca, we finally caught up with Felix from &lt;a href="https://www.imagineusa.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Imagine USA&lt;/a&gt;—and the timing couldn’t have been better. As an exocad dealer on the front lines of digital dentistry, Felix shared his excitement about the strong turnout, the familiar faces, and most importantly, the innovation coming from exocad. What stood out most? The new exocad Hub and its cloud-based capabilities, along with powerful AI-driven tools inside DentalDB designed for efficient batch processing. For Felix and the Imagine team, it’s not just about seeing what’s new—it’s about putting it to the test. By running new features through their own production facility first, they ensure real-world performance before bringing solutions to their customers.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While at Exocad Insights in Mallorca, Elvis and Barb sit down with &lt;strong&gt;Beth Collington&lt;/strong&gt;, President of&lt;a href="https://exocad.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt; Exocad&lt;/a&gt; America, to talk about the growth of digital dentistry and how Exocad continues to evolve to meet the needs of technicians, laboratories, and clinicians. Beth shares her thoughts on education, accessibility, and the importance of creating tools that help bring more people into digital workflows while maintaining the flexibility that has made Exocad a favorite throughout the industry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then &lt;strong&gt;Josh Jakson&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Robert Norton&lt;/strong&gt; join the podcast to discuss their roles as Exocad educators, trainers, and laboratory professionals. The conversation covers some of the biggest announcements from Exocad Insights, including AI Crown, Crown Finalization, and ExoHub, and what these developments could mean for the future of laboratory workflows. They also share how real-world production experience influences the way they teach, why Exocad's flexibility remains one of its greatest strengths, and how the software is being used for everything from high-volume crown production to custom grills, jewelry, and even automotive parts. It's a fun conversation filled with practical insight, industry perspective, and a glimpse into where digital dentistry is headed next.  Special Guests: Beth Collington, Joshua Jakson, and Robert Norton.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>At exocad Insights in beautiful Mallorca, we finally caught up with Felix from <a href="https://www.imagineusa.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Imagine USA</a>—and the timing couldn’t have been better. As an exocad dealer on the front lines of digital dentistry, Felix shared his excitement about the strong turnout, the familiar faces, and most importantly, the innovation coming from exocad. What stood out most? The new exocad Hub and its cloud-based capabilities, along with powerful AI-driven tools inside DentalDB designed for efficient batch processing. For Felix and the Imagine team, it’s not just about seeing what’s new—it’s about putting it to the test. By running new features through their own production facility first, they ensure real-world performance before bringing solutions to their customers.</h3>

<p>While at Exocad Insights in Mallorca, Elvis and Barb sit down with <strong>Beth Collington</strong>, President of<a href="https://exocad.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"> Exocad</a> America, to talk about the growth of digital dentistry and how Exocad continues to evolve to meet the needs of technicians, laboratories, and clinicians. Beth shares her thoughts on education, accessibility, and the importance of creating tools that help bring more people into digital workflows while maintaining the flexibility that has made Exocad a favorite throughout the industry.</p>

<p>Then <strong>Josh Jakson</strong> and <strong>Robert Norton</strong> join the podcast to discuss their roles as Exocad educators, trainers, and laboratory professionals. The conversation covers some of the biggest announcements from Exocad Insights, including AI Crown, Crown Finalization, and ExoHub, and what these developments could mean for the future of laboratory workflows. They also share how real-world production experience influences the way they teach, why Exocad's flexibility remains one of its greatest strengths, and how the software is being used for everything from high-volume crown production to custom grills, jewelry, and even automotive parts. It's a fun conversation filled with practical insight, industry perspective, and a glimpse into where digital dentistry is headed next. </p><p>Special Guests: Beth Collington, Joshua Jakson, and Robert Norton.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<h3>Hey there Voices of the Bench community, this is Trish Jones with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a>. If you've been curious about fast-firing zirconia to improve efficiency but aren't convinced it can deliver predictable, high-quality results, I'd encourage you to connect with us. Our new <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-zircad" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS Emax Zirconia</a> offers multiple fast-fire protocols designed to help save you valuable production time while maintaining consistent results. Time is money in every lab. Don't wait. Reach out to your local Ivoclar rep today and discover how IPS Emax Zirconia can help streamline your workflow.</h3>

<hr>

<h3>At exocad Insights in beautiful Mallorca, we finally caught up with Felix from <a href="https://www.imagineusa.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Imagine USA</a>—and the timing couldn’t have been better. As an exocad dealer on the front lines of digital dentistry, Felix shared his excitement about the strong turnout, the familiar faces, and most importantly, the innovation coming from exocad. What stood out most? The new exocad Hub and its cloud-based capabilities, along with powerful AI-driven tools inside DentalDB designed for efficient batch processing. For Felix and the Imagine team, it’s not just about seeing what’s new—it’s about putting it to the test. By running new features through their own production facility first, they ensure real-world performance before bringing solutions to their customers.</h3>

<p>While at Exocad Insights in Mallorca, Elvis and Barb sit down with <strong>Beth Collington</strong>, President of<a href="https://exocad.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"> Exocad</a> America, to talk about the growth of digital dentistry and how Exocad continues to evolve to meet the needs of technicians, laboratories, and clinicians. Beth shares her thoughts on education, accessibility, and the importance of creating tools that help bring more people into digital workflows while maintaining the flexibility that has made Exocad a favorite throughout the industry.</p>

<p>Then <strong>Josh Jakson</strong> and <strong>Robert Norton</strong> join the podcast to discuss their roles as Exocad educators, trainers, and laboratory professionals. The conversation covers some of the biggest announcements from Exocad Insights, including AI Crown, Crown Finalization, and ExoHub, and what these developments could mean for the future of laboratory workflows. They also share how real-world production experience influences the way they teach, why Exocad's flexibility remains one of its greatest strengths, and how the software is being used for everything from high-volume crown production to custom grills, jewelry, and even automotive parts. It's a fun conversation filled with practical insight, industry perspective, and a glimpse into where digital dentistry is headed next. </p><p>Special Guests: Beth Collington, Joshua Jakson, and Robert Norton.</p>]]>
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  <title>425: DLAT 2026 Part 2 with Tony Aliatim, Rebekah Serrago, Chris Wilson, Antoine Coppens, &amp; Christian Saurman</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
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  <itunes:episode>425</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>DLAT 2026 Part 2 with Tony Aliatim, Rebekah Serrago, Chris Wilson, Antoine Coppens, &amp; Christian Saurman</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>At the Dental Laboratory Association of Texas Meeting 2026, Elvis and Barb sat down with Tony Aliatim from Axis Dental Milling, Rebekah Serrago and Chris Wilson from Garland Dental Services, and Antoine Coppens from Relu alongside orthodontic lab owner Christian Saurman from New England Orthodontic Laboratory. The conversations covered everything from industrial dental milling and equipment repair to AI-driven workflows that are changing how labs design and manufacture restorations. From preventive maintenance and milling strategies to fully automated AI design systems, this episode is packed with insight into where dental technology — and the lab industry — is headed next.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:13:59</itunes:duration>
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This week at the &lt;a href="https://dlat.wildapricot.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Dental Laboratory Association of Texas&lt;/a&gt; Meeting 2026, the microphones stayed hot as three completely different conversations all circled around the same thing: how fast the dental lab industry is evolving. First up, the crew sat down with &lt;strong&gt;Tony Aliatim&lt;/strong&gt; from &lt;a href="https://axismilling.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Axis Dental Milling&lt;/a&gt; to talk about going from biomedical engineering and printing silicone heart models for surgeons… to becoming one of the go-to names in dental milling. From industrial machining roots in Michigan to AI-powered calibration systems and Straumann plug-and-play workflows, Tony breaks down how VersaMill machines are helping labs mill everything from zirconia to implant abutments faster, smarter, and safer. Along the way, the conversation dives into HyperDent, trade show madness, wet vs dry milling nightmares, and why dental technicians may not realize how close this industry really is to aerospace-level manufacturing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then things shifted from mills to maintenance with &lt;strong&gt;Rebekah Serrago&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Chris Wilson&lt;/strong&gt; from &lt;a href="https://garlanddental.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Garland Dental Services&lt;/a&gt;. What started decades ago as a garage-based repair business fixing handpieces has grown into one of the industry’s best-kept secrets for equipment sales, service, and support. Rebekah shares the story of growing up folding flyers for her father’s repair company before eventually becoming CEO and expanding Garland into a massive online sales and service operation supporting everything from ovens to mills. Chris joins in to talk preventative maintenance, service certifications, keeping ancient ovens alive, and why labs desperately need dealers that actually understand the equipment they sell. It’s equal parts family-business story, repair shop wisdom, and hilarious behind-the-scenes dental lab banter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally, the future officially arrived when the podcast crew sat down with &lt;strong&gt;Antoine Coppens&lt;/strong&gt; from &lt;a href="https://www.relu.ai/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Relu&lt;/a&gt; and orthodontic lab owner &lt;strong&gt;Christian Saurman&lt;/strong&gt; of &lt;a href="https://neolab.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;New England Orthodontic Laboratory&lt;/a&gt;. What started as four engineering students experimenting with AI in Belgium somehow turned into fully automated dental workflows capable of designing surgical guides, night guards, models, and restorations in minutes. The conversation explores how AI is reshaping lab workflows, reducing manual design time, integrating directly into LMS systems, and even learning individual lab preferences. Christian explains how his custom-built orthodontic lab management system helped eliminate workflow chaos and automate huge portions of production, while Antoine gives a fascinating look into where dental AI is headed next. Between AI-generated appliances, automated scan checks, and self-learning workflows, this episode feels less like science fiction and more like a preview of what labs will look like over the next five years. Special Guests: Antoine Coppens, Chris Wilson, Christian Saurman, Rebekah Serrago, and Tony Aliatim.&lt;/p&gt;
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This week at the <a href="https://dlat.wildapricot.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Dental Laboratory Association of Texas</a> Meeting 2026, the microphones stayed hot as three completely different conversations all circled around the same thing: how fast the dental lab industry is evolving. First up, the crew sat down with <strong>Tony Aliatim</strong> from <a href="https://axismilling.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Axis Dental Milling</a> to talk about going from biomedical engineering and printing silicone heart models for surgeons… to becoming one of the go-to names in dental milling. From industrial machining roots in Michigan to AI-powered calibration systems and Straumann plug-and-play workflows, Tony breaks down how VersaMill machines are helping labs mill everything from zirconia to implant abutments faster, smarter, and safer. Along the way, the conversation dives into HyperDent, trade show madness, wet vs dry milling nightmares, and why dental technicians may not realize how close this industry really is to aerospace-level manufacturing.</p>

<p>Then things shifted from mills to maintenance with <strong>Rebekah Serrago</strong> and <strong>Chris Wilson</strong> from <a href="https://garlanddental.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Garland Dental Services</a>. What started decades ago as a garage-based repair business fixing handpieces has grown into one of the industry’s best-kept secrets for equipment sales, service, and support. Rebekah shares the story of growing up folding flyers for her father’s repair company before eventually becoming CEO and expanding Garland into a massive online sales and service operation supporting everything from ovens to mills. Chris joins in to talk preventative maintenance, service certifications, keeping ancient ovens alive, and why labs desperately need dealers that actually understand the equipment they sell. It’s equal parts family-business story, repair shop wisdom, and hilarious behind-the-scenes dental lab banter.</p>

<p>Finally, the future officially arrived when the podcast crew sat down with <strong>Antoine Coppens</strong> from <a href="https://www.relu.ai/" rel="nofollow noopener">Relu</a> and orthodontic lab owner <strong>Christian Saurman</strong> of <a href="https://neolab.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">New England Orthodontic Laboratory</a>. What started as four engineering students experimenting with AI in Belgium somehow turned into fully automated dental workflows capable of designing surgical guides, night guards, models, and restorations in minutes. The conversation explores how AI is reshaping lab workflows, reducing manual design time, integrating directly into LMS systems, and even learning individual lab preferences. Christian explains how his custom-built orthodontic lab management system helped eliminate workflow chaos and automate huge portions of production, while Antoine gives a fascinating look into where dental AI is headed next. Between AI-generated appliances, automated scan checks, and self-learning workflows, this episode feels less like science fiction and more like a preview of what labs will look like over the next five years.</p><p>Special Guests: Antoine Coppens, Chris Wilson, Christian Saurman, Rebekah Serrago, and Tony Aliatim.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>-<br>
This week at the <a href="https://dlat.wildapricot.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">Dental Laboratory Association of Texas</a> Meeting 2026, the microphones stayed hot as three completely different conversations all circled around the same thing: how fast the dental lab industry is evolving. First up, the crew sat down with <strong>Tony Aliatim</strong> from <a href="https://axismilling.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Axis Dental Milling</a> to talk about going from biomedical engineering and printing silicone heart models for surgeons… to becoming one of the go-to names in dental milling. From industrial machining roots in Michigan to AI-powered calibration systems and Straumann plug-and-play workflows, Tony breaks down how VersaMill machines are helping labs mill everything from zirconia to implant abutments faster, smarter, and safer. Along the way, the conversation dives into HyperDent, trade show madness, wet vs dry milling nightmares, and why dental technicians may not realize how close this industry really is to aerospace-level manufacturing.</p>

<p>Then things shifted from mills to maintenance with <strong>Rebekah Serrago</strong> and <strong>Chris Wilson</strong> from <a href="https://garlanddental.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Garland Dental Services</a>. What started decades ago as a garage-based repair business fixing handpieces has grown into one of the industry’s best-kept secrets for equipment sales, service, and support. Rebekah shares the story of growing up folding flyers for her father’s repair company before eventually becoming CEO and expanding Garland into a massive online sales and service operation supporting everything from ovens to mills. Chris joins in to talk preventative maintenance, service certifications, keeping ancient ovens alive, and why labs desperately need dealers that actually understand the equipment they sell. It’s equal parts family-business story, repair shop wisdom, and hilarious behind-the-scenes dental lab banter.</p>

<p>Finally, the future officially arrived when the podcast crew sat down with <strong>Antoine Coppens</strong> from <a href="https://www.relu.ai/" rel="nofollow noopener">Relu</a> and orthodontic lab owner <strong>Christian Saurman</strong> of <a href="https://neolab.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">New England Orthodontic Laboratory</a>. What started as four engineering students experimenting with AI in Belgium somehow turned into fully automated dental workflows capable of designing surgical guides, night guards, models, and restorations in minutes. The conversation explores how AI is reshaping lab workflows, reducing manual design time, integrating directly into LMS systems, and even learning individual lab preferences. Christian explains how his custom-built orthodontic lab management system helped eliminate workflow chaos and automate huge portions of production, while Antoine gives a fascinating look into where dental AI is headed next. Between AI-generated appliances, automated scan checks, and self-learning workflows, this episode feels less like science fiction and more like a preview of what labs will look like over the next five years.</p><p>Special Guests: Antoine Coppens, Chris Wilson, Christian Saurman, Rebekah Serrago, and Tony Aliatim.</p>]]>
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  <title>408: Rob Nazzal &amp; Mike Alessio: From the Bench to the (icortica) Dashboard</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2026 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
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  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Rob Nazzal returns to Voices From the Bench with Mike Alessio of Bonadent to talk about leadership, culture, and using data the right way in dental laboratories. They discuss transparency around productivity metrics, the challenge of measuring quality, and how open communication builds trust and stronger teams. The conversation also highlights how icortica helps labs and sales teams use real-time data to improve retention, grow existing accounts, and have smarter, better-timed conversations with doctors.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;h3&gt;Join Ivoclar (AND US!) this February at LMT Lab Day in Chicago. Ivoclar will be offering 16 different educational lectures over the three-day event, giving dental professionals plenty of opportunities to learn, connect, and grow. Visit labday.com/Ivoclar to view the full schedule and register, and be sure to stop by and see the Ivoclar team in the Windy City.&lt;/h3&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;Cal-Lab Association Meeting in Chicago Feb 19-20 &lt;a href="https://cal-lab.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://cal-lab.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;LMT Lab Day Chicago Feb 19-21 &lt;a href="https://lmtmag.com/lmtlabday" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://lmtmag.com/lmtlabday&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Almost three years after his last appearance, Rob Nazzal returns to Voices From the Bench, this time joined by Mike Alessio of &lt;a href="https://bonadent.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Bonadent Dental Laboratory&lt;/a&gt;. The conversation dives deep into lab leadership, culture, transparency, and how data—when used the right way—can empower teams instead of policing them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mike shares his 32-year journey with Bonadent, from starting as a pickup-and-delivery driver to leading the Danaren division, and explains how a family-owned lab has grown into a multi-location organization without losing its people-first culture. Rob and Mike unpack the realities of tracking productivity on the lab floor, the challenges of sharing metrics openly, and why transparency builds trust, alignment, and accountability when done with intention.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The discussion shifts to quality vs. productivity, the difficulty of truly measuring “quality,” and why labs must lead with craftsmanship before numbers. They also explore how digital workflows, QC processes, and proactive communication with doctors impact remakes, efficiency, and relationships.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the sales side, Rob breaks down how &lt;a href="https://www.icortica.com/voices" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;icortica&lt;/a&gt; helps labs grow by focusing on existing customers, improving retention, and giving sales teams real-time insights into what conversations they should be having—right before they walk into an office. Mike and Elvis share firsthand experiences using &lt;a href="https://www.icortica.com/voices" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;icortica&lt;/a&gt;, highlighting how real-time data, centralized notes, and smart alerts change the way sales reps prepare, prioritize, and perform.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The episode wraps with a look at Bonadent’s unique culture (including their famous converted Walmart lab), long employee tenure, and why investing in people, transparency, and the right technology is the real key to sustainable growth in today’s dental lab landscape.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;If you want to grow your business, you need clear insight into what’s happening inside your operation and across your customer journey. That’s where Icortica comes in.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;At Canadian Dental Labs, Icortica has become a cornerstone of how we operate—giving us at-a-glance visibility into performance, helping us focus our efforts, spot opportunities early, and solve problems before they grow. It takes the guesswork out of decision-making and shows us what to do next.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Plus, the Icortica team is incredibly responsive and feels like a true partner in our success.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;If you’re serious about growing your business and understanding your customers better, Icortica can get you there. Learn more at icortica.com/voices — Icortica, helping dental labs grow. Special Guests: Mike Alessio and Rob Nazzal.&lt;/h3&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<h3>Join Ivoclar (AND US!) this February at LMT Lab Day in Chicago. Ivoclar will be offering 16 different educational lectures over the three-day event, giving dental professionals plenty of opportunities to learn, connect, and grow. Visit labday.com/Ivoclar to view the full schedule and register, and be sure to stop by and see the Ivoclar team in the Windy City.</h3>

<ul>
<li>Cal-Lab Association Meeting in Chicago Feb 19-20 <a href="https://cal-lab.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://cal-lab.org/</a></li>
<li>LMT Lab Day Chicago Feb 19-21 <a href="https://lmtmag.com/lmtlabday" rel="nofollow noopener">https://lmtmag.com/lmtlabday</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Almost three years after his last appearance, Rob Nazzal returns to Voices From the Bench, this time joined by Mike Alessio of <a href="https://bonadent.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Bonadent Dental Laboratory</a>. The conversation dives deep into lab leadership, culture, transparency, and how data—when used the right way—can empower teams instead of policing them.</p>

<p>Mike shares his 32-year journey with Bonadent, from starting as a pickup-and-delivery driver to leading the Danaren division, and explains how a family-owned lab has grown into a multi-location organization without losing its people-first culture. Rob and Mike unpack the realities of tracking productivity on the lab floor, the challenges of sharing metrics openly, and why transparency builds trust, alignment, and accountability when done with intention.</p>

<p>The discussion shifts to quality vs. productivity, the difficulty of truly measuring “quality,” and why labs must lead with craftsmanship before numbers. They also explore how digital workflows, QC processes, and proactive communication with doctors impact remakes, efficiency, and relationships.</p>

<p>On the sales side, Rob breaks down how <a href="https://www.icortica.com/voices" rel="nofollow noopener">icortica</a> helps labs grow by focusing on existing customers, improving retention, and giving sales teams real-time insights into what conversations they should be having—right before they walk into an office. Mike and Elvis share firsthand experiences using <a href="https://www.icortica.com/voices" rel="nofollow noopener">icortica</a>, highlighting how real-time data, centralized notes, and smart alerts change the way sales reps prepare, prioritize, and perform.</p>

<p>The episode wraps with a look at Bonadent’s unique culture (including their famous converted Walmart lab), long employee tenure, and why investing in people, transparency, and the right technology is the real key to sustainable growth in today’s dental lab landscape.</p>

<h3>If you want to grow your business, you need clear insight into what’s happening inside your operation and across your customer journey. That’s where Icortica comes in.</h3>

<h3>At Canadian Dental Labs, Icortica has become a cornerstone of how we operate—giving us at-a-glance visibility into performance, helping us focus our efforts, spot opportunities early, and solve problems before they grow. It takes the guesswork out of decision-making and shows us what to do next.</h3>

<h3>Plus, the Icortica team is incredibly responsive and feels like a true partner in our success.</h3>

<h3>If you’re serious about growing your business and understanding your customers better, Icortica can get you there. Learn more at icortica.com/voices — Icortica, helping dental labs grow.</h3><p>Special Guests: Mike Alessio and Rob Nazzal.</p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<h3>Join Ivoclar (AND US!) this February at LMT Lab Day in Chicago. Ivoclar will be offering 16 different educational lectures over the three-day event, giving dental professionals plenty of opportunities to learn, connect, and grow. Visit labday.com/Ivoclar to view the full schedule and register, and be sure to stop by and see the Ivoclar team in the Windy City.</h3>

<ul>
<li>Cal-Lab Association Meeting in Chicago Feb 19-20 <a href="https://cal-lab.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://cal-lab.org/</a></li>
<li>LMT Lab Day Chicago Feb 19-21 <a href="https://lmtmag.com/lmtlabday" rel="nofollow noopener">https://lmtmag.com/lmtlabday</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Almost three years after his last appearance, Rob Nazzal returns to Voices From the Bench, this time joined by Mike Alessio of <a href="https://bonadent.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Bonadent Dental Laboratory</a>. The conversation dives deep into lab leadership, culture, transparency, and how data—when used the right way—can empower teams instead of policing them.</p>

<p>Mike shares his 32-year journey with Bonadent, from starting as a pickup-and-delivery driver to leading the Danaren division, and explains how a family-owned lab has grown into a multi-location organization without losing its people-first culture. Rob and Mike unpack the realities of tracking productivity on the lab floor, the challenges of sharing metrics openly, and why transparency builds trust, alignment, and accountability when done with intention.</p>

<p>The discussion shifts to quality vs. productivity, the difficulty of truly measuring “quality,” and why labs must lead with craftsmanship before numbers. They also explore how digital workflows, QC processes, and proactive communication with doctors impact remakes, efficiency, and relationships.</p>

<p>On the sales side, Rob breaks down how <a href="https://www.icortica.com/voices" rel="nofollow noopener">icortica</a> helps labs grow by focusing on existing customers, improving retention, and giving sales teams real-time insights into what conversations they should be having—right before they walk into an office. Mike and Elvis share firsthand experiences using <a href="https://www.icortica.com/voices" rel="nofollow noopener">icortica</a>, highlighting how real-time data, centralized notes, and smart alerts change the way sales reps prepare, prioritize, and perform.</p>

<p>The episode wraps with a look at Bonadent’s unique culture (including their famous converted Walmart lab), long employee tenure, and why investing in people, transparency, and the right technology is the real key to sustainable growth in today’s dental lab landscape.</p>

<h3>If you want to grow your business, you need clear insight into what’s happening inside your operation and across your customer journey. That’s where Icortica comes in.</h3>

<h3>At Canadian Dental Labs, Icortica has become a cornerstone of how we operate—giving us at-a-glance visibility into performance, helping us focus our efforts, spot opportunities early, and solve problems before they grow. It takes the guesswork out of decision-making and shows us what to do next.</h3>

<h3>Plus, the Icortica team is incredibly responsive and feels like a true partner in our success.</h3>

<h3>If you’re serious about growing your business and understanding your customers better, Icortica can get you there. Learn more at icortica.com/voices — Icortica, helping dental labs grow.</h3><p>Special Guests: Mike Alessio and Rob Nazzal.</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>Episode 405: George Cowburn, Robert MacLeay, &amp; Kaylee Jilbert: From Flask to Mill with Lab Pilot</title>
  <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/405</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2025 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
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  <itunes:episode>405</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>George Cowburn, Robert MacLeay, &amp; Kaylee Jilbert: From Flask to Mill with Lab Pilot</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>This episode features George Cowburn, along with denturist Robert MacLeay and digital designer Kaylee Jilbert, as they explore the evolution of digital dentures and the launch of Lab Pilot, a cloud-based CAM solution built to simplify removable workflows. They discuss blending analog fundamentals with digital design to achieve better-fitting dentures, titanium partials, and faster relines—without massive equipment investments. Ultimately, the conversation highlights how “trad-digital” workflows may finally make digital dentures practical, scalable, and accessible for everyday labs.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:07:22</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;This week, we dive deep into the evolving world of digital dentures with George Cowburn, along with denturist Robert MacLeay and digital designer Kaylee Jilbert. George shares his unconventional path from engineering into dentures, the early challenges of bringing CAD/CAM into removables, and why his company Perfit has evolved into &lt;a href="https://www.labpilot.net/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Lab Pilot&lt;/a&gt;—a cloud-based approach designed to meet labs and denturists where they are, not where software companies wish they’d be. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Robert and Kaylee bring the real-world perspective, explaining how combining analog fundamentals with digital design unlocked predictable, better-fitting dentures and titanium partial frameworks that actually snap into place. From monolithic milled partials to same-day digital relines and cloud-based CAM without subscriptions, this conversation explores how “trad-digital” workflows could finally make digital dentures accessible, scalable, and practical for everyday labs—without sacrificing fit, function, or sanity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Happy Holidays from Ivoclar!&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;As the year comes to a close, all of us at Ivoclar want to extend our heartfelt gratitude to the incredible Voices From the Bench community. Thank you for your partnership, your trust, and the support you’ve shown throughout the year.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;From our Ivoclar family to yours, we wish you a joyful, healthy, and safe holiday season.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;May your days be merry, your nights be bright, and your smiles shine like freshly fallen snow.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Ho, ho, ho — Happy Holidays from Ivoclar!&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Big news is coming your way in the world of CAM. Our friends at Ivoclar have teamed up with &lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;FOLLOW-ME! Technology&lt;/a&gt; to bring the &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ivotion" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivotion Denture System&lt;/a&gt; into the&lt;a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt; HyperDent CAM&lt;/a&gt; workflow.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;That’s right—your favorite pre-shaded, two-layer Ivotion discs, the ones that let you design and mill a complete denture in one seamless process with no bonding and no mess, are now moving beyond closed systems. Thanks to this new partnership, Ivotion can finally be milled on open machines through HyperDent.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;And it gets better: you’ll first see this powerful workflow available on the &lt;a href="https://www.rolanddga.com/products/dental/dwx-53d" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Roland DWX-53 series mills&lt;/a&gt;—already a staple in so many labs—as well as the &lt;a href="https://www.imagineusa.com/legacy/s/mills/imill" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Imagine iMills&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;If you’ve been waiting for a faster, cleaner, more flexible way to produce full dentures, this is it. Ivoclar and FOLLOW-ME! just made the future of denture manufacturing wide open.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Get ready—HyperDent is about to change the way you mill Ivotion. Special Guests: George Cowburn, Kaylee Jilbert , and Robert MacLeay .&lt;/h3&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>This week, we dive deep into the evolving world of digital dentures with George Cowburn, along with denturist Robert MacLeay and digital designer Kaylee Jilbert. George shares his unconventional path from engineering into dentures, the early challenges of bringing CAD/CAM into removables, and why his company Perfit has evolved into <a href="https://www.labpilot.net/" rel="nofollow noopener">Lab Pilot</a>—a cloud-based approach designed to meet labs and denturists where they are, not where software companies wish they’d be. </p>

<p>Robert and Kaylee bring the real-world perspective, explaining how combining analog fundamentals with digital design unlocked predictable, better-fitting dentures and titanium partial frameworks that actually snap into place. From monolithic milled partials to same-day digital relines and cloud-based CAM without subscriptions, this conversation explores how “trad-digital” workflows could finally make digital dentures accessible, scalable, and practical for everyday labs—without sacrificing fit, function, or sanity.</p>

<h3>Happy Holidays from Ivoclar!</h3>

<h3>As the year comes to a close, all of us at Ivoclar want to extend our heartfelt gratitude to the incredible Voices From the Bench community. Thank you for your partnership, your trust, and the support you’ve shown throughout the year.</h3>

<h3>From our Ivoclar family to yours, we wish you a joyful, healthy, and safe holiday season.</h3>

<h3>May your days be merry, your nights be bright, and your smiles shine like freshly fallen snow.</h3>

<h3>Ho, ho, ho — Happy Holidays from Ivoclar!</h3>

<hr>

<h3>Big news is coming your way in the world of CAM. Our friends at Ivoclar have teamed up with <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">FOLLOW-ME! Technology</a> to bring the <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ivotion" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivotion Denture System</a> into the<a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"> HyperDent CAM</a> workflow.</h3>

<h3>That’s right—your favorite pre-shaded, two-layer Ivotion discs, the ones that let you design and mill a complete denture in one seamless process with no bonding and no mess, are now moving beyond closed systems. Thanks to this new partnership, Ivotion can finally be milled on open machines through HyperDent.</h3>

<h3>And it gets better: you’ll first see this powerful workflow available on the <a href="https://www.rolanddga.com/products/dental/dwx-53d" rel="nofollow noopener">Roland DWX-53 series mills</a>—already a staple in so many labs—as well as the <a href="https://www.imagineusa.com/legacy/s/mills/imill" rel="nofollow noopener">Imagine iMills</a>.</h3>

<h3>If you’ve been waiting for a faster, cleaner, more flexible way to produce full dentures, this is it. Ivoclar and FOLLOW-ME! just made the future of denture manufacturing wide open.</h3>

<h3>Get ready—HyperDent is about to change the way you mill Ivotion.</h3><p>Special Guests: George Cowburn, Kaylee Jilbert , and Robert MacLeay .</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>This week, we dive deep into the evolving world of digital dentures with George Cowburn, along with denturist Robert MacLeay and digital designer Kaylee Jilbert. George shares his unconventional path from engineering into dentures, the early challenges of bringing CAD/CAM into removables, and why his company Perfit has evolved into <a href="https://www.labpilot.net/" rel="nofollow noopener">Lab Pilot</a>—a cloud-based approach designed to meet labs and denturists where they are, not where software companies wish they’d be. </p>

<p>Robert and Kaylee bring the real-world perspective, explaining how combining analog fundamentals with digital design unlocked predictable, better-fitting dentures and titanium partial frameworks that actually snap into place. From monolithic milled partials to same-day digital relines and cloud-based CAM without subscriptions, this conversation explores how “trad-digital” workflows could finally make digital dentures accessible, scalable, and practical for everyday labs—without sacrificing fit, function, or sanity.</p>

<h3>Happy Holidays from Ivoclar!</h3>

<h3>As the year comes to a close, all of us at Ivoclar want to extend our heartfelt gratitude to the incredible Voices From the Bench community. Thank you for your partnership, your trust, and the support you’ve shown throughout the year.</h3>

<h3>From our Ivoclar family to yours, we wish you a joyful, healthy, and safe holiday season.</h3>

<h3>May your days be merry, your nights be bright, and your smiles shine like freshly fallen snow.</h3>

<h3>Ho, ho, ho — Happy Holidays from Ivoclar!</h3>

<hr>

<h3>Big news is coming your way in the world of CAM. Our friends at Ivoclar have teamed up with <a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">FOLLOW-ME! Technology</a> to bring the <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ivotion" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivotion Denture System</a> into the<a href="https://www.follow-me-tech.com/hyperdent/" rel="nofollow noopener"> HyperDent CAM</a> workflow.</h3>

<h3>That’s right—your favorite pre-shaded, two-layer Ivotion discs, the ones that let you design and mill a complete denture in one seamless process with no bonding and no mess, are now moving beyond closed systems. Thanks to this new partnership, Ivotion can finally be milled on open machines through HyperDent.</h3>

<h3>And it gets better: you’ll first see this powerful workflow available on the <a href="https://www.rolanddga.com/products/dental/dwx-53d" rel="nofollow noopener">Roland DWX-53 series mills</a>—already a staple in so many labs—as well as the <a href="https://www.imagineusa.com/legacy/s/mills/imill" rel="nofollow noopener">Imagine iMills</a>.</h3>

<h3>If you’ve been waiting for a faster, cleaner, more flexible way to produce full dentures, this is it. Ivoclar and FOLLOW-ME! just made the future of denture manufacturing wide open.</h3>

<h3>Get ready—HyperDent is about to change the way you mill Ivotion.</h3><p>Special Guests: George Cowburn, Kaylee Jilbert , and Robert MacLeay .</p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>383: IDS 2025 &amp; exocad Part 8 with Dr. Milad Shadrooh, Dr. Robbie Hughes, Zelko Relic, &amp; Ben Weber</title>
  <link>https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/383</link>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2025 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</author>
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  <itunes:episode>383</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>IDS 2025 &amp; exocad Part 8 with Dr. Milad Shadrooh, Dr. Robbie Hughes, Zelko Relic, &amp; Ben Weber</itunes:title>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Elvis Deverick &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>A jam-packed episode featuring conversations from the exocad booth at IDS 2025. Two doctors that are teaching others the ways of digital at Avant Garde Dentistry, Dr. Milad Shadrooh and Dr. Robbie Hughes. Then we have a great time getting to know Zelko Relic, the CTO of Align Technologies. We wrap up the episode with Ben Weber from ModuleWorks.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:01:57</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;It's the 11th running of the &lt;strong&gt;Race For the Future in Fort Worth, TX on September 14, 2025&lt;/strong&gt;.  This is YOUR chance to make a difference in a industry we all love so much. Important links:&lt;br&gt;
All the money goes to The Foundation For Dental Laboratory Technology: &lt;a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dentallabfoundation.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
All about the Race: &lt;a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Race website: &lt;a href="https://fortworth.californiatriathlon.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://fortworth.californiatriathlon.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;TO DONATE: &lt;a href="https://fdlt.memberclicks.net/donor-form#/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://fdlt.memberclicks.net/donor-form#/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Select: Race for the Future&lt;br&gt;
Enter the name of the racer you want to support:  &lt;strong&gt;BARB WARNER&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;THE CROWN JEWELS&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Enter the amount (One Million Dollars)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's hard to believe that IDS 2025 happened over 4 months ago and we are still bringing out conversations we got while at the exocad booth.  This one is jam-packed with three conversations with 4 different people in the dental industry that really are making huge impacts. First up is two dentist that are using their time and talent to teach other clinicians from around the world how to implement the digital workflow in their practice.  &lt;strong&gt;Dr. Milad Shadrooh&lt;/strong&gt; (The Singing Dentist!) and &lt;strong&gt;Dr. Robbie Hughes&lt;/strong&gt; are from opposite ends of England but both share the passion of education. They talk about their careers, what kind of courses they offer at &lt;a href="https://www.avantgardedentistry.co.uk/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Avant Garde Dentistry&lt;/a&gt; and how through a mentorship program, dentist can go digital both efficiency and confidently.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then we meet the CTO of &lt;a href="https://www.aligntech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Align Technologies&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;Zelko Relic&lt;/strong&gt;. Zelko talks about getting into dental, the history of Align Technologies and when they merged in &lt;a href="https://www.invisalign.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Invisalign&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://itero.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Itero&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="https://exocad.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;exocad&lt;/a&gt;. He also talks about the resources they put towards R&amp;amp;D, scaling a company to make over 1 million parts A DAY, what new technologies are currently being worked on, and how they are making the ultimate in providing the comprehensive solution to all. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We wrap up the episode with &lt;strong&gt;Ben Weber&lt;/strong&gt; from &lt;a href="https://www.moduleworks.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ModuleWorks&lt;/a&gt;. What is ModuleWorks, well it's kind of hard to explain. You see, it's in about 90% of the manufacturing in the world. It's not the CAM, it's not the user interface, but it's in the background making it all come together. Ben talks about what ModuleWorks is, how it works, and why we can't live without it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Take it from Jennifer Ferguson from Ivoclar. If you have a &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-equipment/programill-pm7" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;PM7&lt;/a&gt; or are thinking about getting a PM7 (Take it from Barb, you should), Ivoclar had launched the "Ivoclar Block Module" that can speed up milling &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-cad" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;emax&lt;/a&gt; by 45%!! The best part is that you can try it for FREE for 90 days. Al l you have to do is send them a message on Instagram at &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/ivoclar.na/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar.na&lt;/a&gt; or send a email to &lt;a href="mailto:jennifer.ferguson@ivoclar.com" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;jennifer.ferguson@ivoclar.com&lt;/a&gt;. Now go mill emax faster!&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Ben Weber, Dr. Milad Shadrooh, Dr. Robbie Hughes, and Zelko Relic.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>It's the 11th running of the <strong>Race For the Future in Fort Worth, TX on September 14, 2025</strong>.  This is YOUR chance to make a difference in a industry we all love so much. Important links:<br>
All the money goes to The Foundation For Dental Laboratory Technology: <a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/</a><br>
All about the Race: <a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/</a><br>
Race website: <a href="https://fortworth.californiatriathlon.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://fortworth.californiatriathlon.org/</a></p>

<h3>TO DONATE: <a href="https://fdlt.memberclicks.net/donor-form#/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://fdlt.memberclicks.net/donor-form#/</a></h3>

<p>Select: Race for the Future<br>
Enter the name of the racer you want to support:  <strong>BARB WARNER</strong> or <strong>THE CROWN JEWELS</strong><br>
Enter the amount (One Million Dollars)</p>

<hr>

<p>It's hard to believe that IDS 2025 happened over 4 months ago and we are still bringing out conversations we got while at the exocad booth.  This one is jam-packed with three conversations with 4 different people in the dental industry that really are making huge impacts. First up is two dentist that are using their time and talent to teach other clinicians from around the world how to implement the digital workflow in their practice.  <strong>Dr. Milad Shadrooh</strong> (The Singing Dentist!) and <strong>Dr. Robbie Hughes</strong> are from opposite ends of England but both share the passion of education. They talk about their careers, what kind of courses they offer at <a href="https://www.avantgardedentistry.co.uk/" rel="nofollow noopener">Avant Garde Dentistry</a> and how through a mentorship program, dentist can go digital both efficiency and confidently.</p>

<p>Then we meet the CTO of <a href="https://www.aligntech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Align Technologies</a>, <strong>Zelko Relic</strong>. Zelko talks about getting into dental, the history of Align Technologies and when they merged in <a href="https://www.invisalign.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Invisalign</a>, <a href="https://itero.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Itero</a>, and <a href="https://exocad.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">exocad</a>. He also talks about the resources they put towards R&amp;D, scaling a company to make over 1 million parts A DAY, what new technologies are currently being worked on, and how they are making the ultimate in providing the comprehensive solution to all. </p>

<p>We wrap up the episode with <strong>Ben Weber</strong> from <a href="https://www.moduleworks.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">ModuleWorks</a>. What is ModuleWorks, well it's kind of hard to explain. You see, it's in about 90% of the manufacturing in the world. It's not the CAM, it's not the user interface, but it's in the background making it all come together. Ben talks about what ModuleWorks is, how it works, and why we can't live without it. </p>

<h3>Take it from Jennifer Ferguson from Ivoclar. If you have a <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-equipment/programill-pm7" rel="nofollow noopener">PM7</a> or are thinking about getting a PM7 (Take it from Barb, you should), Ivoclar had launched the "Ivoclar Block Module" that can speed up milling <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-cad" rel="nofollow noopener">emax</a> by 45%!! The best part is that you can try it for FREE for 90 days. Al l you have to do is send them a message on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ivoclar.na/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar.na</a> or send a email to <a href="mailto:jennifer.ferguson@ivoclar.com" rel="nofollow noopener">jennifer.ferguson@ivoclar.com</a>. Now go mill emax faster!</h3><p>Special Guests: Ben Weber, Dr. Milad Shadrooh, Dr. Robbie Hughes, and Zelko Relic.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>It's the 11th running of the <strong>Race For the Future in Fort Worth, TX on September 14, 2025</strong>.  This is YOUR chance to make a difference in a industry we all love so much. Important links:<br>
All the money goes to The Foundation For Dental Laboratory Technology: <a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/</a><br>
All about the Race: <a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/news-events/race-for-the-future/</a><br>
Race website: <a href="https://fortworth.californiatriathlon.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://fortworth.californiatriathlon.org/</a></p>

<h3>TO DONATE: <a href="https://fdlt.memberclicks.net/donor-form#/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://fdlt.memberclicks.net/donor-form#/</a></h3>

<p>Select: Race for the Future<br>
Enter the name of the racer you want to support:  <strong>BARB WARNER</strong> or <strong>THE CROWN JEWELS</strong><br>
Enter the amount (One Million Dollars)</p>

<hr>

<p>It's hard to believe that IDS 2025 happened over 4 months ago and we are still bringing out conversations we got while at the exocad booth.  This one is jam-packed with three conversations with 4 different people in the dental industry that really are making huge impacts. First up is two dentist that are using their time and talent to teach other clinicians from around the world how to implement the digital workflow in their practice.  <strong>Dr. Milad Shadrooh</strong> (The Singing Dentist!) and <strong>Dr. Robbie Hughes</strong> are from opposite ends of England but both share the passion of education. They talk about their careers, what kind of courses they offer at <a href="https://www.avantgardedentistry.co.uk/" rel="nofollow noopener">Avant Garde Dentistry</a> and how through a mentorship program, dentist can go digital both efficiency and confidently.</p>

<p>Then we meet the CTO of <a href="https://www.aligntech.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Align Technologies</a>, <strong>Zelko Relic</strong>. Zelko talks about getting into dental, the history of Align Technologies and when they merged in <a href="https://www.invisalign.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Invisalign</a>, <a href="https://itero.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Itero</a>, and <a href="https://exocad.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">exocad</a>. He also talks about the resources they put towards R&amp;D, scaling a company to make over 1 million parts A DAY, what new technologies are currently being worked on, and how they are making the ultimate in providing the comprehensive solution to all. </p>

<p>We wrap up the episode with <strong>Ben Weber</strong> from <a href="https://www.moduleworks.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">ModuleWorks</a>. What is ModuleWorks, well it's kind of hard to explain. You see, it's in about 90% of the manufacturing in the world. It's not the CAM, it's not the user interface, but it's in the background making it all come together. Ben talks about what ModuleWorks is, how it works, and why we can't live without it. </p>

<h3>Take it from Jennifer Ferguson from Ivoclar. If you have a <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-equipment/programill-pm7" rel="nofollow noopener">PM7</a> or are thinking about getting a PM7 (Take it from Barb, you should), Ivoclar had launched the "Ivoclar Block Module" that can speed up milling <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ips-e.max-cad" rel="nofollow noopener">emax</a> by 45%!! The best part is that you can try it for FREE for 90 days. Al l you have to do is send them a message on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ivoclar.na/" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar.na</a> or send a email to <a href="mailto:jennifer.ferguson@ivoclar.com" rel="nofollow noopener">jennifer.ferguson@ivoclar.com</a>. Now go mill emax faster!</h3><p>Special Guests: Ben Weber, Dr. Milad Shadrooh, Dr. Robbie Hughes, and Zelko Relic.</p>]]>
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