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    <description>A weekly podcast dedicated to the dental laboratory industry. Featuring anyone associated with the profession from all over the world. Host are in their own dental laboratory every day making teeth and interviewing people from the industry on their time off. New episodes every Monday morning.</description>
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    <itunes:subtitle>A Dental Laboratory Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Elvis Dahl &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
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  <title>370: From the 40th Lab Day 2025 Part 5 with Federico Manes, Mellissa Everett, Sandra Puurits, &amp; Jay Work</title>
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  <itunes:episode>370</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>From the 40th Lab Day 2025 Part 5 with Federico Manes, Mellissa Everett, Sandra Puurits, &amp; Jay Work</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Another trip back to the Ivoclar Ballroom at LMT Lab Day 2024 with Federico Manes from MODJAW, Mellissa Everett who works to lab jobs, and a love-lab story of Sandra Puurits &amp; Jay Work.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Come join us at the &lt;a href="https://jensendental.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Jensen Dental&lt;/a&gt; booth during the &lt;a href="https://www.fdla.net/attendee-information" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;FDLA Southern States Symposium &amp;amp; Expo&lt;/a&gt; - &lt;br&gt;
June 13-14 at Signia by Hilton Orlando Bonnet Creek in Orlando, FL&lt;br&gt;
Register today at: FDLA.NET&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This week we wrap up the episodes that we got while in the Ivoclar Ballroom at LMT Lab Day Chicago 2025. First up is &lt;strong&gt;Federico Manes&lt;/strong&gt; from &lt;a href="https://modjaw.com/en/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;MODJAW&lt;/a&gt;. Federico talks about discovering the world of dental, using his digital background to help a lab get digital, and how they have worked out a system to bring accurate jaw motions to all design software.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then we meet &lt;strong&gt;Mellissa Everett&lt;/strong&gt;. Mellissa loves being a dental technician. She loves it so much, she is usually working at two labs at the same time. She talks about finding out about dental, her desire to become a ceramist, and how her crazy work schedule has actually helped her become a better technician.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We then wrap up the episode with a different conversation. Two past podcast guests come on to give us a follow up. &lt;strong&gt;Sandra Puurits&lt;/strong&gt; is from Finland. &lt;strong&gt;Jay Work&lt;/strong&gt; is from Pennsylvania. Last year they meet at Lab Day 2024 for the first time. Now they are engaged and enjoying being them..... together.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sandra's episode: &lt;a href="https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/214" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/214&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Jay's episode: &lt;a href="https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/271" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/271&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Don't miss this incredible webinar with Tanya Little, a dentist from beautiful Vancouver, Canada. We would like to invite you to a special webinar that she's hosting with &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://lmtmag.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;LMT&lt;/a&gt; on Wednesday, May 7th, titled "Reflections from a Denturist: 20 Years of Crafting Dentures!". In this program, she will review the incredible history of removables with Ivoclar and focus on the new and exciting evolution based print resin and of course, the PM7. Her goal is to provide you with several key takeaways that will allow you to work smarter and not harder. You can join on May 7th by registering at &lt;a href="https://lmtmag.com/webinars/reflections-from-a-denturist-20-years-of-crafting-dentures" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://lmtmag.com/webinars/reflections-from-a-denturist-20-years-of-crafting-dentures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;hr&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Are you a dental lab in need of more talent to improve your bottom line and keep production on schedule? Are you a dental tech with great skills but feel you're being limited at your current lab? Well, the answer is here and this is precisely why &lt;a href="https://www.winwingo.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;WIN WIN GO&lt;/a&gt; was created. The dental lab and dental tech community needed a place where labs and technicians can meet, talk about their needs and connect in ways that foster a win win outcome. As a tech. If you're ready to make a change, thinking about moving in the next year or just curious what's out there, sign up today. It's totally free. As a lab, you might be feeling the frustration of paying the big employment site so much and getting so few tech candidates. We understand they don't much care about our industry. WINWINGO.com is simply the best place for lab techs and lab owners to actively engage in creating their ideal future. WINWINGO.com, how dental techs find paradise.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Special Guests: Federico Manes, Jay R. Work III, Mellissa Everett, and Sandra Puurits.&lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Come join us at the <a href="https://jensendental.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Jensen Dental</a> booth during the <a href="https://www.fdla.net/attendee-information" rel="nofollow noopener">FDLA Southern States Symposium &amp; Expo</a> - <br>
June 13-14 at Signia by Hilton Orlando Bonnet Creek in Orlando, FL<br>
Register today at: FDLA.NET</strong></p>

<p>This week we wrap up the episodes that we got while in the Ivoclar Ballroom at LMT Lab Day Chicago 2025. First up is <strong>Federico Manes</strong> from <a href="https://modjaw.com/en/" rel="nofollow noopener">MODJAW</a>. Federico talks about discovering the world of dental, using his digital background to help a lab get digital, and how they have worked out a system to bring accurate jaw motions to all design software.</p>

<p>Then we meet <strong>Mellissa Everett</strong>. Mellissa loves being a dental technician. She loves it so much, she is usually working at two labs at the same time. She talks about finding out about dental, her desire to become a ceramist, and how her crazy work schedule has actually helped her become a better technician.</p>

<p>We then wrap up the episode with a different conversation. Two past podcast guests come on to give us a follow up. <strong>Sandra Puurits</strong> is from Finland. <strong>Jay Work</strong> is from Pennsylvania. Last year they meet at Lab Day 2024 for the first time. Now they are engaged and enjoying being them..... together.  </p>

<p>Sandra's episode: <a href="https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/214" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/214</a><br>
Jay's episode: <a href="https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/271" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/271</a></p>

<h3>Don't miss this incredible webinar with Tanya Little, a dentist from beautiful Vancouver, Canada. We would like to invite you to a special webinar that she's hosting with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a> and <a href="https://lmtmag.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">LMT</a> on Wednesday, May 7th, titled "Reflections from a Denturist: 20 Years of Crafting Dentures!". In this program, she will review the incredible history of removables with Ivoclar and focus on the new and exciting evolution based print resin and of course, the PM7. Her goal is to provide you with several key takeaways that will allow you to work smarter and not harder. You can join on May 7th by registering at <a href="https://lmtmag.com/webinars/reflections-from-a-denturist-20-years-of-crafting-dentures" rel="nofollow noopener">https://lmtmag.com/webinars/reflections-from-a-denturist-20-years-of-crafting-dentures</a></h3>

<hr>

<h3>Are you a dental lab in need of more talent to improve your bottom line and keep production on schedule? Are you a dental tech with great skills but feel you're being limited at your current lab? Well, the answer is here and this is precisely why <a href="https://www.winwingo.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">WIN WIN GO</a> was created. The dental lab and dental tech community needed a place where labs and technicians can meet, talk about their needs and connect in ways that foster a win win outcome. As a tech. If you're ready to make a change, thinking about moving in the next year or just curious what's out there, sign up today. It's totally free. As a lab, you might be feeling the frustration of paying the big employment site so much and getting so few tech candidates. We understand they don't much care about our industry. WINWINGO.com is simply the best place for lab techs and lab owners to actively engage in creating their ideal future. WINWINGO.com, how dental techs find paradise.</h3><p>Special Guests: Federico Manes, Jay R. Work III, Mellissa Everett, and Sandra Puurits.</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p><strong>Come join us at the <a href="https://jensendental.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Jensen Dental</a> booth during the <a href="https://www.fdla.net/attendee-information" rel="nofollow noopener">FDLA Southern States Symposium &amp; Expo</a> - <br>
June 13-14 at Signia by Hilton Orlando Bonnet Creek in Orlando, FL<br>
Register today at: FDLA.NET</strong></p>

<p>This week we wrap up the episodes that we got while in the Ivoclar Ballroom at LMT Lab Day Chicago 2025. First up is <strong>Federico Manes</strong> from <a href="https://modjaw.com/en/" rel="nofollow noopener">MODJAW</a>. Federico talks about discovering the world of dental, using his digital background to help a lab get digital, and how they have worked out a system to bring accurate jaw motions to all design software.</p>

<p>Then we meet <strong>Mellissa Everett</strong>. Mellissa loves being a dental technician. She loves it so much, she is usually working at two labs at the same time. She talks about finding out about dental, her desire to become a ceramist, and how her crazy work schedule has actually helped her become a better technician.</p>

<p>We then wrap up the episode with a different conversation. Two past podcast guests come on to give us a follow up. <strong>Sandra Puurits</strong> is from Finland. <strong>Jay Work</strong> is from Pennsylvania. Last year they meet at Lab Day 2024 for the first time. Now they are engaged and enjoying being them..... together.  </p>

<p>Sandra's episode: <a href="https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/214" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/214</a><br>
Jay's episode: <a href="https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/271" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.voicesfromthebench.com/271</a></p>

<h3>Don't miss this incredible webinar with Tanya Little, a dentist from beautiful Vancouver, Canada. We would like to invite you to a special webinar that she's hosting with <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a> and <a href="https://lmtmag.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">LMT</a> on Wednesday, May 7th, titled "Reflections from a Denturist: 20 Years of Crafting Dentures!". In this program, she will review the incredible history of removables with Ivoclar and focus on the new and exciting evolution based print resin and of course, the PM7. Her goal is to provide you with several key takeaways that will allow you to work smarter and not harder. You can join on May 7th by registering at <a href="https://lmtmag.com/webinars/reflections-from-a-denturist-20-years-of-crafting-dentures" rel="nofollow noopener">https://lmtmag.com/webinars/reflections-from-a-denturist-20-years-of-crafting-dentures</a></h3>

<hr>

<h3>Are you a dental lab in need of more talent to improve your bottom line and keep production on schedule? Are you a dental tech with great skills but feel you're being limited at your current lab? Well, the answer is here and this is precisely why <a href="https://www.winwingo.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">WIN WIN GO</a> was created. The dental lab and dental tech community needed a place where labs and technicians can meet, talk about their needs and connect in ways that foster a win win outcome. As a tech. If you're ready to make a change, thinking about moving in the next year or just curious what's out there, sign up today. It's totally free. As a lab, you might be feeling the frustration of paying the big employment site so much and getting so few tech candidates. We understand they don't much care about our industry. WINWINGO.com is simply the best place for lab techs and lab owners to actively engage in creating their ideal future. WINWINGO.com, how dental techs find paradise.</h3><p>Special Guests: Federico Manes, Jay R. Work III, Mellissa Everett, and Sandra Puurits.</p>]]>
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  <title>338: More Units Don't Always Mean More Profits with David Lesh</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 16 Sep 2024 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>Elvis Dahl &amp; Barb Warner</author>
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  <itunes:episode>338</itunes:episode>
  <itunes:title>More Units Don't Always Mean More Profits with David Lesh</itunes:title>
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  <itunes:author>Elvis Dahl &amp; Barb Warner</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back to the podcast, David Lesh from 8&amp;9 Consulting. David dives deep into the financials that labs need to understand to be profitable. Don't worry, he explains it like a 3rd grader so Elvis can even understand it.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you to everyone that donated to our Race for the Future 10 triathlon. This was the biggest one yet in terms of money brought in. All of this money goes right back in to our industry and remember you can give all year long!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://dentallabfoundation.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sometimes the business part of the lab is not the most exciting. But honestly, it's super important for everyone to understand in order for a lab (or any business) to be successful. The thinking that more units equal more profit is just not true. The one to help your lab is David Lesh from &lt;a href="https://www.8and9consulting.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;8&amp;amp;9 Consulting&lt;/a&gt;. David is back on for a third time and now he is sharing the secrets of the financials that labs need to be profitable. David emphasizes that if you're not growing profitable sales, you're merely exhausting your resources without reaping the rewards. He also shares practical tips on how to reduce COGS and set key performance indicators (KPIs) to track and improve financial performance and a unique approach to setting prices based on turnaround times, which can significantly increase the average selling price and overall profitability.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A lot of financial terms are used, so luckily David takes the time to explain to Elvis like a 3rd grader.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Get the Dental Lab Growth Calculator TODAY: &lt;a href="https://www.8and9consulting.com/contact-us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.8and9consulting.com/contact-us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;If you are in the market for purchasing a new milling machine or a furnace, Voices From the Bench invites you to connect with an &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivoclar&lt;/a&gt; sales associates.  They have several great deals and financing options now available for you to take advantage of.   These robust and dependable machines were designed to make your laboratory more efficient and profitable.  They are work horses when it comes to processing &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/metal-free-ceramics/ips-e.max-press-lab" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;IPS e.max lithium disilicate&lt;/a&gt; and the amazing &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/prime-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Prime Zirconia&lt;/a&gt;.  The &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-equipment/programill-pm7" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;PM7 mill &lt;/a&gt; also allows you to do digital dentures with their game changing &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ivotion" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Ivotion puck&lt;/a&gt;.  Head over to &lt;a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;ivoclar.com&lt;/a&gt;, voicesfromthebench.com/ivoclar, or call them at 1-800-533-6825.&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;h3&gt;Special Guest: David Lesh.&lt;/h3&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>Thank you to everyone that donated to our Race for the Future 10 triathlon. This was the biggest one yet in terms of money brought in. All of this money goes right back in to our industry and remember you can give all year long!<br>
<a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/</a></p>

<p>Sometimes the business part of the lab is not the most exciting. But honestly, it's super important for everyone to understand in order for a lab (or any business) to be successful. The thinking that more units equal more profit is just not true. The one to help your lab is David Lesh from <a href="https://www.8and9consulting.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">8&amp;9 Consulting</a>. David is back on for a third time and now he is sharing the secrets of the financials that labs need to be profitable. David emphasizes that if you're not growing profitable sales, you're merely exhausting your resources without reaping the rewards. He also shares practical tips on how to reduce COGS and set key performance indicators (KPIs) to track and improve financial performance and a unique approach to setting prices based on turnaround times, which can significantly increase the average selling price and overall profitability.</p>

<p>A lot of financial terms are used, so luckily David takes the time to explain to Elvis like a 3rd grader.</p>

<p>Get the Dental Lab Growth Calculator TODAY: <a href="https://www.8and9consulting.com/contact-us" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.8and9consulting.com/contact-us</a></p>

<h3>If you are in the market for purchasing a new milling machine or a furnace, Voices From the Bench invites you to connect with an <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivoclar</a> sales associates.  They have several great deals and financing options now available for you to take advantage of.   These robust and dependable machines were designed to make your laboratory more efficient and profitable.  They are work horses when it comes to processing <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/metal-free-ceramics/ips-e.max-press-lab" rel="nofollow noopener">IPS e.max lithium disilicate</a> and the amazing <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/prime-zirconia" rel="nofollow noopener">Prime Zirconia</a>.  The <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-equipment/programill-pm7" rel="nofollow noopener">PM7 mill </a> also allows you to do digital dentures with their game changing <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us/products/digital-processes/ivotion" rel="nofollow noopener">Ivotion puck</a>.  Head over to <a href="https://www.ivoclar.com/en_us" rel="nofollow noopener">ivoclar.com</a>, voicesfromthebench.com/ivoclar, or call them at 1-800-533-6825.</h3><p>Special Guest: David Lesh.</p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Thank you to everyone that donated to our Race for the Future 10 triathlon. This was the biggest one yet in terms of money brought in. All of this money goes right back in to our industry and remember you can give all year long!<br>
<a href="https://dentallabfoundation.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://dentallabfoundation.org/</a></p>

<p>Sometimes the business part of the lab is not the most exciting. But honestly, it's super important for everyone to understand in order for a lab (or any business) to be successful. The thinking that more units equal more profit is just not true. The one to help your lab is David Lesh from <a href="https://www.8and9consulting.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">8&amp;9 Consulting</a>. David is back on for a third time and now he is sharing the secrets of the financials that labs need to be profitable. David emphasizes that if you're not growing profitable sales, you're merely exhausting your resources without reaping the rewards. He also shares practical tips on how to reduce COGS and set key performance indicators (KPIs) to track and improve financial performance and a unique approach to setting prices based on turnaround times, which can significantly increase the average selling price and overall profitability.</p>

<p>A lot of financial terms are used, so luckily David takes the time to explain to Elvis like a 3rd grader.</p>

<p>Get the Dental Lab Growth Calculator TODAY: <a href="https://www.8and9consulting.com/contact-us" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.8and9consulting.com/contact-us</a></p>

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